"Ask The Oliver Mechanic" July 24 thru Sept. 25, 2001 Archives
"Ask The Oliver Mechanic" July 24 thru Sept. 25, 2001 Archives
Oliver Paint
Posted by David Wells on 9/24/2001 at 21:29:28 IP: 161.184.17.214
Is there a source of paint for my 770 in the correct colours? Thanks David
Re: Oliver Paint
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/25/2001 at 05:33:17 IP: 209.163.7.13
Yes, you can get it from AGCO. Larry............
Re: Oliver Paint
Posted by David Wells on 9/25/2001 at 09:06:22 IP: 161.184.23.131
Thanks Again David
Oliver 770 oil levels
Posted by David Wells on 9/24/2001 at 21:20:19 IP: 161.184.17.214
I would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction to check the oil level in the transmission. The only obvious level site I have found is back by the PTO. Is there another. Do the transmission and final drive share the same oil? What oil(s) is recommended. Thanks David
Re: Oliver 770 oil levels
Posted by Larry Hasin on 9/25/2001 at 05:31:57 IP: 209.163.7.13
The oil level check plug for the 770 is on the right side of the transmission housing just ahead of the right hand brake. It is a 1/2 inch pipe plug. That covers both the transmission and differential levels. If the tractor does not have power booster, I reccommend 80-90 transmission grease or if it is equipped with power booster, I reccommend Mobil-Trans HD 50 oil. Larry..
Re: Oliver 770 oil levels
Posted by David Wells on 9/25/2001 at 09:07:05 IP: 161.184.23.131
Thanks for your help. David
Oliver 1250 Tractor
Posted by Art Torres on 9/24/2001 at 19:26:59 IP: 63.16.72.45
A friend has purchased an Oliver 1250 tractor second-hand and has no information on it at all. If you could send any websites to visit to give horsepower,3 point hitch and anything else you may think will help. Thank you.
Re: Oliver 1250 Tractor
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/25/2001 at 05:20:56 IP: 209.163.7.13
The first thing he should do is get an Operator's Manual from Mary Ann Townsend at Oliver Hdq.: hpocacc@fiai.net. It will answer many of his questions. Larry.........
Oliver Transfer Case on MFD
Posted by Erik on 9/19/2001 at 19:44:39 IP: 206.72.16.3
I have an Oliver 2150 with MFD. For the 3rd time in 4 years, rear end lube is leaking through into the transfer case and pushing out the breather hole to the tune of a small stream. I understand that the seals meant to hold the rear end lube out of the transfer case are out, however what could be causing this on an annual basis approx. every 200 hrs? Did Oliver or White have problems with this? I like the tractor except for this and I am wondering what the drawbacks would be if I took out the breather and capped the breather hole? Would that just push the seals out where the transfer case meets the rear end? Any help would be appreciated
Re: Oliver Transfer Case on MFD
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/19/2001 at 20:15:50 IP: 209.163.7.67
I havn't experienced the problem you are talking about. I guess I'd try your idea and see what happens. It seems that they may have had a problem with this. Get in touch with the Shop Foreman at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. He may be able to help you. Larry.........
Oliver 550 Diesel
Posted by Dennis Bowers on 9/19/2001 at 07:30:14 IP: 209.248.7.73
Larry I have a problem with my Oliver 550 Diesel. I recently rebuilt it. Finally got it started but I have oil flowing from the vent on the valve cover. I put everything new in it but Im not a mechanic. Got any clues.
Re: Oliver 550 Diesel
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/19/2001 at 20:11:20 IP: 209.163.7.67
I reccommend that you take off the valve cover and run the engine to see how much oil is getting up to the rocker arms. You may have to restrict the flow of oil to the rocker arms. Apparently you have enough crank case pressure that is carrying oil out the breather tube (the vent on the valve cover). Put this engine on a load (work it) and try to get the rings seated. Larry.......
oliver88
Posted by Kevin on 9/16/2001 at 06:33:25 IP: 216.144.4.76
How much is an 1946 or 47 unstyled 88 row crop worth?
Re: oliver88
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/16/2001 at 07:50:51 IP: 209.163.7.50
Kevin. That depends on so many things!!! How complete it is. Condition. Tires. Does it run. Etc. Larry..........
Re: oliver88
Posted by Kevin the 55 owner on 9/18/2001 at 13:29:07 IP: 209.62.162.169
Gasp! Someone else has my name! From now on I will be known as "Kevin the 55 owner".
Super 88 front hubs
Posted by Dale G on 9/11/2001 at 06:00:41 IP: 216.43.28.130
My Super 88 has the cast iron hub assembly on the front and I need a pair of hubs that will accept pressed steel six bolt wheels.Do you have any and what would they cost? Thanks Larry for your help!
Re: Super 88 front hubs
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/11/2001 at 20:21:51 IP: 209.163.7.23
No, I don't have any! I just sold a pair for $100. Are you someplace where you could check salvage yards? Larry............
Re: Super 88 front hubs
Posted by Dale G on 9/12/2001 at 07:01:54 IP: 63.168.203.67
That's what I'll do Thanks Larry
1600
Posted by Mike on 9/10/2001 at 09:40:31 IP: 208.2.71.2
Larry, I am looking at a 1963 1600 gas. What in particular should I look for in this series? Thanks, I appreciate your web site.
Re: 1600
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/10/2001 at 20:38:58 IP: 209.163.7.72
Mike. Look at overall condition. It will be hard to find a nice one at that age of tractor. The engine and drive train are the most important to check out as that is what will cost the most to repair. Make sure the tractor is complete such as tin, 3 pt. hitch, etc, make sure nothing is missing as some of those things are very hard to find. I don't worry too much about tires as they are easy to replace. Larry.......
Oliver 1850 hydro drive
Posted by Siegfried Wutte on 9/6/2001 at 23:11:31 IP: 64.12.105.52
I was baling and suddenly the tractor would take 2 - 3 seconds to responde to a change with the Hydro-drive, 10 minutes later it stoped responding at all. I checked the oil and detected a major leak. Do I need to split the tractor and where can I get all the parts I will need?
Re: Oliver 1850 hydro drive
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/7/2001 at 05:04:54 IP: 209.163.7.60
The engine and Hydro will probably have to be pulled out of the tractor. You do not have to split the tractor. For parts, contact Tom at O'Brien Co Impl. 800-320-6224. Larry........
Re: Oliver 1850 hydro drive
Posted by Siegfried Wutte on 9/11/2001 at 13:50:17 IP: 198.81.17.53
How many hours does that take?
Re: Oliver 1850 hydro drive
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/11/2001 at 20:25:02 IP: 209.163.7.23
Probably 8 hrs. to remove and reinstall and probably 2 - 4 hours to replace the seal. Larry...........
Super 88 Gas Rowcrop
Posted by Jeff Paulik on 9/6/2001 at 20:19:56 IP: 207.2.109.176
Hi Larry and thanks for taking the time to read this post. Mine is not a technical question, but a resource question. I have a Super 88 Gas that I am in need of a block for(among other things). Do you know of any reputable sources for getting parts,help,info, etc. in my quest to get her up and running. I live in Northcentral Indiana but would be willing to travel a 1/2 day on the road if that is what it takes to deal with someone that you trust. I am quite new at tractor restoration and would truly love to have my first experience be a pleasurable one. Any advice or direction from you will be greatly appreciated. Thank You in advance, Jeff. By the way.......your site is by far one of the best that I have come across on my journey. Thank You!!!
Re: Super 88 Gas Rowcrop
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/7/2001 at 05:12:42 IP: 209.163.7.60
Hi Jeff, I have a block for a S88. I do have some other parts or you can check with Tom at O'Brien Co Impl 800-320-6224. There should be someone closer to you that would have a block. Check with Tim at Smitty's Tractor Parts in Dalton OH 330-832-9792. It's best to call him in the evening. If you are interested in any parts we have, email us. Thank you for the compliments on the website. Larry......
Super 88 Diesel horsepower
Posted by Dale G on 9/5/2001 at 14:19:06 IP: 63.168.203.67
I just bought a Super 88 Diesel and am going to pull it.It has a stock engine.How much horsepower can I get out of it by turning up the pump? What percent can I go to on the pump before I need to put in bigger injector tips? What I would like to get to is around 80 horse.Is that possible with doing what I mentioned above? Thanks, Dale
Re: Super 88 Diesel horsepower
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/5/2001 at 20:29:24 IP: 209.163.7.16
I don't think that is possible. I think you could get 60-65 horse with those injectors. I have no experience with putting in larger injector tips. Larry................
Oliver 1655 Diesel
Posted by Pete in Ks on 9/4/2001 at 08:18:48 IP: 12.13.248.12
Larry, Love your site! Hope you can help me. I will try to make this as understandable as possible. While I was doing some loader work the engine began missing and running as if there was no throtle control. I thought at first that I had got air in fuel system as I was getting low on fuel. I got tractor back home, about 5 min., and pulled fuel shut-off but tractor continued to run for about another 20 to 30 sec. Throtle linkage is intact as is fuel cut off. Does this sound as if it is air in system or did I loose a pump seal? There was approx. 2 gal. fuel in tank. Where and how should I start to diagnos this problem. Thanks Pete
Re: Oliver 1655 Diesel
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/4/2001 at 21:46:04 IP: 209.163.7.96
I think you might have a problem with your injection pump. Contact Central Fuel Injection at 712-362-4200. Larry ..........
Re: Oliver 1655 Diesel
Posted by Larry Wolfe on 9/6/2001 at 06:32:25 IP: 208.10.124.64
Sounds like a broken govner ring.Remove the small timeing plate on the side of the pump and see if chuncks of coffie ground sized stuff comes out.You may have to crank the engine a little.If it does you definatly have a broken govner.
super 55 hi-range gears
Posted by jeff cote' on 9/3/2001 at 19:52:12 IP: 152.163.204.176
My neighbor has asked me to work on her 1954 Super 55 transmission. It is stuck in the low range set of gears. I pulled the shifter and tried to move the rail into hi range. It moved slightly but would not shift out of the low range. Is this a common problem among these tractors that anyone else may have experienced? What might I be getting myself into. I am a pretty good mechanic specializing in semi-tractors. I have not worked on an Oliver since 1966 and I was only 12. This tractor brings back some fond memories of my childhood and I am excited. I'm just looking for some good info to get me started from someone more familiar with the Oliver. Thanks in advance for your help.
Re: super 55 hi-range gears
Posted by Larry Harsin on 9/3/2001 at 21:17:45 IP: 209.163.7.62
It probably isn't anything too complicated. It could very easily be the detents and poppets on the shifting rails. You'll have to remove the top cover to get at them. They have a habit of getting corroded. This may be the problem. You'll have to inspect it and see how it looks. Larry......
66 rowcrop
Posted by Butch Griffin on 8/31/2001 at 10:28:34 IP: 205.188.199.57
Larry, I wrote to you sometime ago.I have a 1950 66 Row Crop. (4 cyl.)I have decided to rebuild it. Progress is fair, but I need some parts. Rings, gasket set, push rods. Head is ready & the block is under the reconstruction. I also need a battery door, and some PTO parts. I will take the entire PTO assembly if I can afford it. That will occupy me for a while until I can find something else wrong &/or missing. Can you help or steer me in the right direction?
Re: 66 rowcrop
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/31/2001 at 21:47:34 IP: 209.163.7.22
Check with Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Or Tim Smith at Smitty's Tractor Parts 330-832-9792. It's best to call Tim in the evenings. Larry.............
1650 Diesel
Posted by Carl on 8/30/2001 at 10:52:58 IP: 199.150.177.187
Larry, I have a 1650 diesel which doesn't sound right. It is making alot more noise than usual and it overheats right away, even when its just idling. I have checked the radiator and its clean. The oil is clean and up to the right level and the oil pressure is 40 lbs. even when hot. I think the tractor has a blown head gasket, the previous owner had mentioned the tractor has a habit of blowing head gaskets every few years. What do you think? P.S. I think this is a great website. There are still alot of guys out there with Oliver tractors still being used every day. Good to have knowledge people to help out.
Re: 1650 Diesel
Posted by Shep on 8/30/2001 at 12:35:26 IP: 216.76.116.104
Yep, I would say you have a blown head gasket. Be sure to get a new head gasket with fire rings and check the sholders on the sleeves to make sure they are in good shape.
My 1655 diesel with the same engine as your 1650 has the same problem. One thing that I have found is that if you are pulling a load and are trying to hold it back going down hill, if you let the engine over RPM just even a little, it will blow the head gasket real quick. I put two head gaskets in my 1655 last year. Good luck.
Re: 1650 Diesel
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/30/2001 at 20:18:23 IP: 209.163.7.39
I agree with Shep. Thanks for the complements to the website. I get a lot of enjoyment from hearing from Oliver owners. Larry............
Re: 1650 Diesel
Posted by Shep on 8/31/2001 at 09:38:45 IP: 216.76.116.104
Thanks Larry, I learn lots more here than I can contribute, but I like to help where I can. Great site.
1800A engine
Posted by Jim Bailey on 8/28/2001 at 17:39:36 IP: 134.161.13.145
Hi Larry! I'm looking at a "checkerboard" basket case with a bad crank and head.Are these parts interchangeable with later B&C series engines? Any ideas on where I could locate such parts?
Re: 1800A engine
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/28/2001 at 18:04:14 IP: 209.163.7.5
No, the A engine is not like the B's and C's. The 1800A gas is not so bad to get parts for, but the 1800A Diesel is hard to find parts for. Bearings are a special problem. Location of parts depends upon what parts you need. Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl would probably have most of them. 800-320-6224. Larry..........
1550 starter
Posted by mike chapman on 8/25/2001 at 18:11:55 IP: 206.144.243.162
I was having trouble with the starter sticking. Starterdrive was shot and got a new starter. Now the ignition won't turn the starter. we can jump the starter but can't keep the tractor running. Is it the ignition switch or something else?
Re: 1550 starter
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/26/2001 at 05:45:44 IP: 209.163.7.84
I would test my ignition switch. If the switch tests out o.k., the wire that runs from the ignition switch to the coil is probably bad and will have to be replaced. Sorry for the delay in answering. I have been gone for a few days. Larry..........
tractor
Posted by Pat Carlson on 8/23/2001 at 22:48:31 IP: 204.30.245.246
Looking for a strong oliver, perferably 1500-1855 tractor not running. No enginge needed. I have engine and tires. Looking for a project to work on. or pcarlson@progresscastinggroup.com 763-675-8738 Thanks Pat
Re: tractor Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/26/2001 at 05:41:26 IP: 209.163.7.84
I have an 1850 Diesel that might work. Why don't you call me. 712-362-2966 Larry.............
Re: tractor
Posted by Shep on 8/29/2001 at 09:21:37 IP: 216.76.116.104
Larry, I am looking for a 1950 with a GM diesel that I can fix up for my next project. If you know of any sitting around that are in need of some work, for a cheap price, let me know. I have not seen too many of those tractors around here. Thanks..
Re: tractor
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/30/2001 at 20:20:55 IP: 209.163.7.39
I don't know of any that are for sale right now. If I see one, I'll try to let you know. Larry.........
Mini Alternator
Posted by Brandon on 8/23/2001 at 11:56:12 IP: 64.12.102.28
I know we talked bout this at the show in Plain City do u or anyone else have any information on where i can get one at or i also have heard of a company that puts the guts of your Delco Remy Alternator into your old generator houseing. Any help would be much apreciated. Thanks in Advance, Brandon Howell
Re: Mini Alternator
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/26/2001 at 06:10:12 IP: 209.163.7.53
Sorry to be slow in answering. I have been gone for a few days. I don't know anything about someone putting alternator parts into an old generator housing. I will get back to you a about a mini alternator. There is a place called Jackson Diesel & Electric at Jackson MN that might have it. I can't find their phone number right now. They are across the state line and not in my local phone book. Larry...........
Re: Mini Alternator
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/26/2001 at 19:31:55 IP: 209.163.7.44
Brandon. The phone number for Jackson Diesel & Electric is: 507-847-2216. Larry...........
18-27 oil filter
Posted by Russ on 8/21/2001 at 19:28:35 IP: 204.42.28.109
Larry, Would you know a make and number of the proper oil filter for a oliver 18-27 its a 1930 Thanks Russ...
Re: 18-27 oil filter
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/21/2001 at 21:34:36 IP: 209.163.7.98
No, I don't. Contact Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Larry Harsin............
Oliver Super 66
Posted by Jason on 8/21/2001 at 13:46:21 IP: 164.58.10.123
Hello, I was wondering if the power steering gear box from a 770 oliver (narrow front) could be used on my Super66? If so, will this work on a wide front?
Re: Oliver Super 66
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/21/2001 at 18:45:58 IP: 209.163.7.38
No, it won't work on the S66. If you want a power steering on the S66 with a wide front, you will have to go with a Char-Lynn power steering unit. I do have a Char-Lynn power steering unit for sale. If you are interested in it, email me. Larry.......
Oliver 70 steering worm bearings
Posted by Clayton Hoover on 8/20/2001 at 20:00:24 IP: 12.4.134.148
I have a 1938 70RC and I need to replace the tapered roller bearings on each end of the worm gear in the steering box (mine have completely disintegrated). I cannot seem to locate any through my Oliver parts sources. Can you tell me where I can get these bearings or can you give me bearing numbers.
Re: Oliver 70 steering worm bearings
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/21/2001 at 05:22:57 IP: 209.163.7.8
Check with Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. He may be able to help you. Larry.........
550 diesel
Posted by Dennis Bowers on 8/20/2001 at 14:58:19 IP: 209.248.7.30
Larry I recently rebuilt my 550 diesel. Now I can't seem to get it started. I've set the timing correctly on the flywheel and the and the pump. i think???? can you tell how to time it? does it time for the FP on the piston on the intake stroke?? Trust me i'm not a mechanic !!!
Re: 550 diesel
Posted by Larry Wolfe on 8/20/2001 at 18:15:15 IP: 208.10.124.203
NO you are 180 off.
Re: 550 diesel
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/20/2001 at 18:39:04 IP: 209.163.7.40
I suspect you do not have the pump timed correctly to the engine. You'll have to take the valve cover off and turn the engine until the rocker arms indicate that it is on compression on number 1. Then turn it to firing point on the fly wheel. Then the pump will have to be timed to the engine. You'll have to remove the little cover that's on the outside of the pump below the injection head. You'll be looking for a "marked" tooth (it will either have a vertical line through it or a bevelled tooth). Turn the pump in the direction of rotation (the timing cover will have to be removed from the front of the pump so you can do this) and then the two drive bolts will have to be removed in the gear. Now proceed to turn it until you find the marked tooth, then look through the inspection hole for the timing gears where you are turning it on the front. Now, on the disc behind the timing gear that runs the pump, is a mark. Line that mark up with the pointer and you should be timed. Larry..........
Re: 550 diesel
Posted by Dennis on 8/20/2001 at 21:54:30 IP: 209.248.7.51
Larry Im not a mechanic by no means. I'm not sure how to check #1 for compression stroke. What postion should valves be for compression? and is there a sequence that they go in? intake, compression, power, exhaust
Re: 550 diesel
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/21/2001 at 05:18:22 IP: 209.163.7.8
To find Top Dead Center (TDC) number 1, turn the engine and watch the valves on number 4 cylinder. When the exhaust closes and the intake just begins to open, you are on TDC number 1. Then you will have to back the engine up slightly, then turn forward to Firing Point (FP) on the fly wheel. Larry............
Site
Posted by Kevin on 8/19/2001 at 13:37:06 IP: 209.62.162.180
Hi Larry: I came back to check your reply to my question after you changed servers and could not get in via your site. Today I took the roundabout way via your Morphew link and here I am. Just thought I would let you know in case its a widespread problem. I will check my 3-pt adjust next time I'm up north. Thanks Kevin
Re: Site
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/19/2001 at 17:24:18 IP: 209.163.7.91
Hi Kevin, Sorry you had problems. Our new web address is www.olivertractor.com. Our original server went out of business so we had to find a new server. Larry..........
Re: Site
Posted by Kevin on 8/21/2001 at 17:11:32 IP: 63.145.206.79
Hi Larry; Checked in today and had no problem, probably my provider not your server. I do beleive I'm officially addicted to your site! Just reading other peoples questions is helping me get familiar with these crazy contraptions called OLivers!
88d rocker arms
Posted by Joe on 8/16/2001 at 18:25:19 IP: 209.132.168.135
Is it OK to mix the arms with the lube hole that is drilled straight up vs the one with the hole pointed a bit forward. Will be using one with the straight up hole on the south end of the rocker shaft if it is OK to do this. I also plan to add a third thin washer next to five of the arms to better align them with the valve stem. Is this OK? Looks like the lube hole should still line up pretty good.
Re: 88d rocker arms
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/16/2001 at 20:38:04 IP: 209.163.7.45
I think that would be o.k. I don't see any problems here. Larry............
Oliver 770
Posted by Greg Raser on 8/16/2001 at 05:33:55 IP: 63.164.209.55
Sadly,,, I still have not looked at the 770, if you recall it locked up while driving down the raod this spring. I have done some thinking on what I recall happened. The motor, trans., just "stopped" while driving. the solenoid was bad, so I could not restart it, then after I pulled it home, replaced the solenoid, it took right off, but while idleing in "neutral",, there was a clunk, and it stalled the motor again. But, it took right off again after another restart. So,,,,,,,,,,,,,, maybe it is not in the transmission,, but in the Power Boost thingy,,,, I plan to get to it next week, after we get back from our Nascar weekend in Michigan. Thanks,,, greg
Re: Oliver 770
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/16/2001 at 12:23:49 IP: 209.163.7.32
Thanks for letting us know. We had been real worried about you and your tractor. :-) :-) We'll be watching for a message when you find out what's wrong. Larry..........
Re: Oliver 770
Posted by Greg Raser on 8/20/2001 at 22:03:21 IP: 63.164.209.16
Thanks Larry,,, Wow what a summer,,, is it really almost gone ??? Went to Michigan to the Nascar race this past weekend,, and the week before,,, I went to Chicagoland Raceway,, and drove a "Richard Petty Experience" car. What a thrill !!! The poor ole' 770 is still waiting for some attention. So,, what do you think,,,? Could there be something in that power boost , that could have caused the lock up,, then cleared itself enough to let it work ok... ? I am trying to avoid opening up the transmission,, my thinking is since it stalled the motor a second time, idleing in neutral,, the "jamm-up" was in front of the gear box,,
Re: Oliver 770
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/21/2001 at 18:52:59 IP: 209.163.7.38
Greg. It could be just about anything. It could even be a spun bearing in the engine. It could be the sprag clutch locking up.....etc..etc.. You'll have to tear into it and see what it is. Good Luck......and let me know what you find. Larry....
Re: Oliver 770
Posted by Greg Raser on 8/21/2001 at 20:35:21 IP: 63.164.209.33
Thanks,,, I think I will start with the power boost first,, since the second kah-lunk came while idleing in neutral, I do not think it spun a bearing,, the motor did restart, and "seemed" to run and sound ok after the second kah-lunk,, but I did not run it very long,,, and the gauges are not there , so I do not know the oil pressure,,, I could mount a temporary oil gauge to check that,,,,I have heard a spun bearing in a car,, it squawked like a barking dog,,,, thanks again for your advice,, I hope to get at it this week, while I am still on vacation. However,, my wife is keeping a close watch on me, since our daughter is getting married in October,, she has frozen my fun money,,,,,,
crawlers
Posted by Allen on 8/15/2001 at 08:40:25 IP: 158.140.3.201
I have what I was told is a 1942 Oliver crawler. do you know where I can get information on it. Thanks
Re: crawlers
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/15/2001 at 09:11:02 IP: 209.163.7.18
Landis Zimmerman at Ephrata PA is the Cletrac expert. You can call him at 717-738-2573. It would help if you would have the serial number from your machine before you call him. You should have a manual. If Landis doesn't have the one you need, you can get one from Mary Ann Townsend at Oliver Hdq. in Charles City: hpocacc@fiai.net. A website you might find of interest is: www.cletrac.org Larry..
old tractors
Posted by Dwight Vanderbeek on 8/13/2001 at 22:46:24 IP: 172.156.82.88
Larry, Just checked out your website. I have an Oliver 70 that is stuck, has been sitting in the weeds and sank down in the dirt. All the tin is there, real good and straight, All lights and mounting brackets are there, p.t.o. shield, fenders, very complete. The tires are rotted clear off. I have 80 acres of corn I want to pick this fall and would like to use this tractor with my mounted picker. Do you have an idea what it would take to get her up in shape and running?
Re: old tractors
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/14/2001 at 21:05:53 IP: 209.163.7.93
A stuck engine in a 70 is bad news. I have a late 70 engine here. I would sell the complete engine without the cylinder head for $475 plus shipping. Your head might be usable and we might be able to install it on this engine otherwise I have a complete head ready to install. It would be $400 plus shipping. For a little over $1000 you could have an engine. I am sure this is cheaper than you can repair yours. I may have some wheels if you need them. Are your rims bad? Larry...
Super 55 3 point
Posted by Kevin on 8/13/2001 at 14:39:38 IP: 63.145.206.115
Hi Larry: I was wondering about my '55 Super 55 and the 3 point. When I lift my rear blade to drive around, the pump makes a pretty loud whirring noise. The working pressure is always close to the high and the housing seems full enough, but it bothers me enough that I disconnect my blade as soon as I'm done with it. (I leave my 3-pt in the lowered position when I'm not using it) Is this whining noise normal for the pump in the up position? I would like to leave my blade attached for counterweight to my loader, but I don't like that sound! Thanks in Advance!
Re: Super 55 3 point
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/14/2001 at 20:57:01 IP: 209.163.7.93
Your lift arms may be coming up high enough that the pump is still pumping. There is a little linkage adjustment at the top by the compression spring behind the seat. Adjust that and see if that will correct the noise problem. If this does not solve the problem, the veins inside the pump may be getting worn and may have to be replaced. There is a repair kit for this. Larry.....
Sticky clutch
Posted by Larry on 8/12/2001 at 13:00:09 IP: 206.65.190.134
Sir, I have a '52 66RC, runs good, sheet metal a little rough, and with what appears to be factory 3-point hitch. First question I have is to the mounting point of the work cylinder. This one is MIA. Second problem recently cropped up. The clutch doesn't want to disengage when the pedal is fully depressed. So far it will after a moment or two or with a tap on the brakes, any ideas. Thanks.
Re: Sticky clutch
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/12/2001 at 17:10:50 IP: 209.163.7.67
The clutch facings could be grease soaked or you could have a sticking pilot bearing. I would take it apart and fix as needed. If you have a factory 3 pt., the cylinder laid along side the bull gear cover on the right side. Larry........
oliver 880
Posted by Darrel on 8/11/2001 at 01:21:24 IP: 198.155.235.8
I've have aproblem with my 880D last spring when planting the tractor would lift my planter slow when loaded full with liqiud fert. then really slow the planter is a 4 row narrow JD 7000. rebuilt the hyd pump 2 years ago and put in new relief valve last winter. is the planter too heavy for the tractor? how do you check pop off of the relief valve with out spending big money for a tester? thanks Darrel
Re: oliver 880
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/11/2001 at 05:03:50 IP: 209.163.7.42
You have to have a pressure guage, but you should not have more than 1250 lbs to lift. The hydraulic cylinders on that planter are actually designed for 2000 lbs of pressure. In other words, I'm saying the hydraulic system on your 880 is not designed to work with that planter. It's not that the planter is too heavy, it's that the planter is designed for 2000 lbs of pressure and the 880 will not produce that much. Larry..........
Re: oliver 880
Posted by Darrel on 8/12/2001 at 02:51:36 IP: 198.155.235.8
can i change to a diff. cylinder i have a 4 x 8 on now thanks darrel
Re: oliver 880
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/12/2001 at 17:03:15 IP: 209.163.7.67
I am thinking that the 7000 is a pull type planter. Is this right? A bigger cylinder would help. Could you get the fertilizer tank up on the tractor? That would eliminate the problem. Larry......
Re: oliver 880
Posted by darrel on 8/12/2001 at 20:57:23 IP: 198.155.235.8
yes it is a pull type thank-you for your help
88 Oliver transmission howl
Posted by Larry Kruse on 8/7/2001 at 20:57:04 IP: 24.4.252.208
My father has an 88 that needs some work. It has a very loud transmission howl. I know it is an 88 trademark, but this seems too loud. What causes the noise - gears or bearings (which ones). How can I tell if this is a problem that needs repair? How much will it cost for parts? Thanks for your help.
Re: 88 Oliver transmission howl
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/8/2001 at 05:06:03 IP: 209.163.7.88
Take the lid off of the transmission and rear end and see what is going on. Look for loose bearings. If they are, adjust them up. Then, see how the tractor sounds. You may not need any parts. It is not ever going to be real quiet. Larry......
1650 three point
Posted by bruce brandt on 8/2/2001 at 20:03:42 IP: 65.64.61.46
LARRY, GREETINGS FROM OKLAHOMA! I AM AN OLIVER DRIVIN NW IOWA TRANSPLANT. BORN AND RAISED NEAR STORM LAKE. NOTHING BUT OLIVERS ON OUR PLACE. I RECENTLY PURCHASED A 1965 1650 DIESEL FROM MY BROTHER IN OTTUMWA IA. I HAVE REPAINTED, NEW DECALS, NEW RUBBER, NEW ALLIED LOADER. LOOKING GOOD, RUNNING GREAT. LOOKS AND RUNS LIKE A NEW ONE. I AM REALLY ENJOYING THIS PROJECT. MY PROBLEM, MY THREE POINT WILL NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO FUNCTION. BEFORE I BOUGHT THIS TRACTOR MY BROTHER HAD THE HYDAULICS SET FOR ONEWAY, NOW AFTER INSTALLING THE NEW LOADER AND RESETTING THE HYDRAULICS TO TWOWAY, THE 3-PT WON'T WORK. I MIGHT ADD THAT THE LOADER WORKS FINE SO I DON'T FEEL THAT I HAVE A PUMP PROBLEM. MY BROTHER BILL (THERE ARE FIVE IOWA RAISED OLIVER DRIVIN BROTHERS)ASKED YOU ABOUT MY PROBLEM ABOUT A WEEK AGO, YOUR RESPONSE WAS TO MAKE SURE THE BOLT AT MY RIGHT HEEL WAS SNUG, IT IS. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY FURTHER HELP IN THIS MATTER!!!
THANKS BRUCE
P.S. TWO OF MY BROTHERS HAVE DEFECTED. ONE IS PULLING A RESTORED 1966 1206 RESTORED AND PULLING GOOD, AND BROTHER BILL IS DRIVING A 4020 POWERSHIFT, HE IS RETIRED LIVES IN VA.AND KEEPS HIS TACTOR IN IOWA. HOPEFULLY THEY WILL SEE THE LIGHT AND RETURN TO THE BEAUTY OF OLIVER GREEN AND WHITE
Re: 1650 three point
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/3/2001 at 03:13:48 IP: 209.163.7.71
Bruce. You could have a regulator spool sticking in the servo valve. You could have a snap ring that has come out and let the top spool out of the servo valve. If the trouble is not the servo valve, chances are that the elbow that holds the 3 pt. hitch relief valve has broken and the relief valve assembly is laying in the oil pan on the hydraulic. The servo valve can be serviced by removal of the top plate that has the remote valve spools. If your problem is the relief valve on the lift cylinder, you will have to remove the entire hydraulic assembly from the tractor and come in from the bottom to repair it. Sure too bad that 2 of your brothers have defected. :-) If you get back to the Storm Lake area, come and see us. Larry................
Three Point Hitch, 1650
Posted by Bill Brandt on 8/1/2001 at 19:01:59 IP: 152.163.204.198
Lets try this again. I have a brother with a 1650 Diesel and the three point will not respond when you move the lever. He has a loader on it and last weekend we adjusted the valves for the left and right outlets to make them work smoother and faster. We could get nothing out of the three point. We were wondering if you had any suggestions as to what he should do next. Thanks.
Re: Three Point Hitch, 1650
Posted by Larry Wolfe on 8/1/2001 at 19:16:19 IP: 208.10.124.143
Make sure the bolt plug by your right heel( when sitting on the seat) is in snug.Allso check the external linkage to the valve.
Re: Three Point Hitch, 1650
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/1/2001 at 19:30:02 IP: 209.163.7.42
I agree with Larry Wolfe. Good Luck. Larry.......
Oliver Tools
Posted by Tami on 7/31/2001 at 23:09:35 IP: 158.252.237.48
Hello, Mr. Harsin or anyone else who might reply-
My husband and I just bought a 1950 Standard 88 Gas (our first Ollie). I would like to know if Oliver supplied a tool set with the tractor when it was purchased new? If so, how many and what types? There are currently a couple of Oliver wrenches on eBay, so I thought maybe I would reassemble a set of Oliver tools for this tractor, if that is the way they were sold when new. Thanks for the information, and you have a great website!
Re: Oliver Tools
Posted by Larry Harsin on 8/1/2001 at 05:08:20 IP: 209.163.7.21
I'm not aware that any wrenches came with the 88. Some wrenches came with the cultivators and the plows. Larry.........
OC4 Won't Start
Posted by Charlie on 7/31/2001 at 20:41:02 IP: 166.102.123.77
I have an oc4 dozer with a Hercules Diesel (DD 130). The tractor was running 2 years ago,however it started missing (skipping or whatever you want to call it) 15 to 20 minutes before I finished the last job, but has been parked (in shelter) since. I cannot get it started, not even a hit, no way I try. After it turns over a few times, I do notice some smoke coming out of the breather on the valve cover. I got kinder scared when I heard someone say not to use starting fluid (ether) that you could burn holes in the pistons. I have used starting fluid in the past sometimes in considerable amounts. I know very little about diesel engines. What should I do?
Re: OC4 Won't Start
Posted by Larry Harsin on 7/31/2001 at 21:37:35 IP: 209.163.7.73
I would reccommend that you get a qualified person to check it out. You havn't given me enough information to form any conclusions. Landis Zimmerman is a Cletrac expert and more used to that engine. Contact him at:717-738-2573. Larry.....
1250 Oliver/Fiat Diesel
Posted by Tim on 7/30/2001 at 21:15:03 IP: 199.174.156.223
I have a 1250 Oliver with a bad starter. It has a 24 volt electrical system. I haven't been able to find anyone to rebuild the starter or a new one. The generator doesn't work and there are no lights left on the tractor so I would like to change it over to a 12 volt system. Do you know of ANY starter that would bolt on as a replacement? If I could find a 12 volt starter to put on it I could put on a 12 volt altenator. Surely there is some starter that will bolt on. Thanks
Re: 1250 Oliver/Fiat Diesel
Posted by Larry Harsin on 7/31/2001 at 04:51:42 IP: 209.163.7.92
Contact Rick's Agri-Parts at www.ricksagriparts.com These guys will probably be able to help you. Larry........
77 Carb
Posted by Rich on 7/30/2001 at 10:29:19 IP: 209.154.159.225
Larry We have a stock 77 that we have been pulling in some of the local antique pulls. It has the Marvel Schebler 363 carb. These weekend the tractor would hardly run, had to have the chock out about 1/2",I think I had some dirt in the carb jets, but what really confused me was when I took the main fuel needle all the way out the tractor ran better than it ever has (1st place in 3800#). I studied my Oliver shop manual, and I see that the later model 77's and 770's ran a different model MS carb with a larger venturi. Other than the venturi, is there anything else different is the later model carbs? Any idea why the engine seemed to make more power with the needle removed? Any suggestions on carb changes I should make to improve the power? Do you have anything that would help? Thanks Rich
Re: 77 Carb
Posted by Larry Harsin on 7/31/2001 at 04:38:07 IP: 209.163.7.93
No, I don't. I don't know why it ran better without the needle. Apparently it wasn't getting enough fuel before the removal of the needle. I have installed that later carb on the earlier engines and it did seem to help. They let in more air and fuel. Larry.......
Re: 77 Carb
Posted by Rich on 7/31/2001 at 05:39:28 IP: 209.154.159.225
Larry last night I took the carb off and went through it, removed the jets, blew out the passages and assembled with new gaskets etc. And the tractor ran a lot better, however anything more than 2 turns of the high speed needle didn't seem to affect the engine, even with the needle all the way out. I am going to try opening up the high speed jet to the next larger size and see if I can get some more fuel to the engine. Another question I have concerns the Oliver 1550, I have been told that the intake and exhaust manifolds are the same as my 77. This would lead me to believe that the heads are similar, however, I see that the 1550 is 230 in3 and the 77 is about 200 in3. Do you know if the 1550 engine is a longer stroke? Will the 1550 crank fit in the 77 block? Thanks Rich
Re: 77 Carb
Posted by Larry Harsin on 7/31/2001 at 21:32:47 IP: 209.163.7.73
I don't think a 1550 crank will fit a 77 block. They are closely related, but I don't think there will be enough clearance. I believe the stroke is the same, but the 1550 has larger passages. A 1550 manifold might fit onto a 77 head. Larry.....
Re: 77 Carb
Posted by Larry Wolfe on 8/1/2001 at 19:10:05 IP: 208.10.124.143
The super 77 crank and the 1550 crank are interchangeable. I can see no differance and have made this switch before. The 1550 has a higher compression head, but both can be used on either block. The only differance in the blocks is that the 1550 has a place cast into it for the alternater mount.All the sleeves will fit and the rods too. The whole blocks can be switched if you make your own alternater mount.The manifolds will fit too. All the parts on a 1555 will fit except for the valves which are larger 88 size.One time i took a 1555 block and used sleeves from a 1550, and a head plus a crank from a S77, to make one good engine.
Re: 77 Carb
Posted by Larry Wolfe on 8/1/2001 at 19:12:03 IP: 208.10.124.143
The cranks are the same .The differance is in the sleeves.
770 engine
Posted by Dick on 7/29/2001 at 19:13:10 IP: 152.163.201.179
Hi, Could you tell me what engines would fit in a 770 diesel besides the orginal? Thank you, Dick
Re: 770 engine
Posted by Larry Harsin on 7/29/2001 at 21:30:49 IP: 209.163.7.93
I know people who have put an 880 engine in a 770 tractor. You have to bore new holes for the front engine mounts. A 77 engine would bolt right in just like the 770. Larry........
Re: 770 engine
Posted by Dick on 7/30/2001 at 05:50:49 IP: 64.12.102.43
Thank you for the help. Do you have any suggestions where I might find an engine? A rod went through my block. Dick
Re: 770 engine
Posted by Larry Harsin on 7/30/2001 at 05:54:52 IP: 209.163.7.62
I have a 770 block that will have to be line bored. I want $200 plus shipping. If you are interested in this, email your address to me. Larry........
Oliver/Waukesha diesel
Posted by Joe on 7/29/2001 at 16:16:18 IP: 209.132.168.13
1600 diesel - 265 cu in. Did this engine have full psi engine oil lube system (vs spurt), counter-balanced crank, and 7 mains? How about the 770 and 550 diesels, did they ever get full psi lube? Thanks.
Re: Oliver/Waukesha diesel
Posted by Larry Harsin on 7/29/2001 at 21:27:36 IP: 209.163.7.93
All of them are the spurt holes in the block style. The mains are pressurized and the rods are not. They are all 4 main engines. They didn't come with the 7 main engine until they made the 1650 diesel. Larry..........
1550 fuel problem?
Posted by Brian on 7/26/2001 at 17:13:26 IP: 209.83.43.21
Larry, I lent my tractor out over the weekend and it hasn't run right since (the guy drove it ten miles down the road at full throttle but that's another story). Anyway, it idles OK but when the throttle is opened it stumbles and produces a lot of black smoke. It runs pretty rough and has little power under load. Changed the plugs (very sooty black) but that didn't make much difference. Time to pull the carb and clean it or does this sound more serious?
Re: 1550 fuel problem?
Posted by Brian on 7/26/2001 at 20:11:04 IP: 209.83.43.13
Well I took the carb off, pulled it all apart and cleaned it with Gumout. Everything looked clean and snug. On a hunch I took the distributor out and found that the piece that contacts the distributor shaft lobes was worn down so bad that the points barely nudged when I spun the shaft. All the adjustment is used up too so it's off to the auto parts store tomorrow for points and condenser. Do you think that explains the carbon I was seeing and the loss of power? Poor combustion from poor spark?
Re: 1550 fuel problem?
Posted by Larry Harsin on 7/26/2001 at 21:33:53 IP: 209.163.7.68
It sounds like you are on the right track. Make sure the screen in the fuel strainer is doing it's job. Larry.........
Re: 1550 fuel problem?
Posted by Brian on 7/27/2001 at 10:25:36 IP: 209.83.43.13
That did the trick. What a BIG difference!
1755 High Crop
Posted by Dave on 7/24/2001 at 20:36:58 IP: 216.145.201.55
Hi Larry. I saw a 1755 High Crop at the National Show. Did they actually produce a 1755 High Crop during that era, or were the drops possibly used from a 1750 or 1850. I have seen one other one around (1755 hi crop)but not sure. What is you take on it. Thanks, DAVE
Re: 1755 High Crop
Posted by Larry Harsin on 7/25/2001 at 05:23:05 IP: 209.163.7.65
I don't really know. I suppose if someone wanted one, it is conceivable that they probably built one. They probably built a few. Larry......
hydraulic system diagram
Posted by glen on 7/24/2001 at 23:31:13 IP: 63.38.3.112
do you know where we can get a diagram of an 1800 oliver system. mine is hooked up to a bucket and unable to hold pressure. I need instruction on how to repair it.
Re: hydraulic system diagram
Posted by Larry Harsin on 7/24/2001 at 05:48:04 IP: 209.163.7.72
There are check valves in the top cover of the hydraulic system (under the seat). Probably one of them is leaking. The back two of the check valves are easy to repair without removing the lid off the system. All you have to do is remove the little cast iron plate on the back of the cover. I believe it has 5 bolts in it. If these are o.k., the problem is probably in the front two check valves and you will have to remove the cover to service them. To get a diagram and/or a Service Manual and an Operator's Manual from Mary Ann Townsend at Charles City Hdq. Email her at: hpocacc@fiai.net. Larry.........