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"Ask The Oliver Mechanic" - March, 2016 Archives

Oliver 77d block

IP: 204.12.187.196 Posted on March 29, 2016 at 09:19:52 PM by Eric allen

I had a leaky head gasket and pulled the head. I found the rear oil passage Bolt threads are stripped out into the block. What do you recommend as the best fix? Thanks.

Re(1): Oliver 77d block

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 30, 2016 at 08:10:04 AM by Larry Harsin

You may have to get another block. It would be worth a try to use heli-coil on that. Your NAPA store or an automotive supply store should have that heli-coil for repairs. A repairman from and automotive or machine shop could explain about heli-coil. Larry

Re(2): Oliver 77d block

IP: 167.142.21.171 Posted on March 30, 2016 at 12:45:03 PM by Eric allen

Any concern about getting shavings down the oil hole? Where does that oil passage go? Could I remove the pan and back flush it?

Re(3): Oliver 77d block

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 31, 2016 at 07:24:00 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes. A small magnet would help when you do the heli-coil. The oil comes in from the rear main and goes onto the rocker arms. Get the shavings out and maybe put some solvent down in there and that should do it. I think removing the pan etc is a waste of time. The solvent and the magnet should do it. Larry

Oliver 77d block

IP: 204.12.187.196 Posted on March 29, 2016 at 09:19:52 PM by Eric allen

I had a leaky head gasket and pulled the head. I found the rear oil passage Bolt threads are stripped out into the block. What do you recommend as the best fix? Thanks.

Re(1): Oliver 77d block

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 30, 2016 at 08:10:04 AM by Larry Harsin

Re(2): Oliver 77d block

IP: 167.142.21.171 Posted on March 30, 2016 at 12:45:03 PM by Eric allen

Any concern about getting shavings down the oil hole? Where does that oil passage go? Could I remove the pan and back flush it?

Re(3): Oliver 77d block

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 31, 2016 at 07:24:00 AM by Larry Harsin

Torques

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 29, 2016 at 07:53:39 AM by Randi Suckut

I am looking for the bolt torques ( head, main, rods, rocker arms, intake/exhaust , etc.) for a 1958 Oliver 77 serial# 68 725 723. Thank you, Randi

Re(1): Torques

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 29, 2016 at 07:55:51 AM by Larry Harsin

Head bolts are 100 lbs. Mains are 100 lbs., rods are 40 lbs., rocker arms are 25 lbs., intake & exhaust are about 30 lbs. Larry

oil filter position

IP: 74.140.85.152 Posted on March 28, 2016 at 07:08:18 PM by Larry

Larry, Please settle an argument between friends. On a 1950T with a 310 the oil filter that is on the side of block. The sock filter has one end with a large hole with a internal metal tube, the other end is a small hole just large enough for the can bolt to pass through. Which end of filter is down on base, or which end goes up in can. I hate to think one of us has done it wrong for 30 yrs. Thanks

Re(1): oil filter position

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 29, 2016 at 07:39:53 AM by Larry Harsin

I'm not sure! I don't have a 1950T or it's manual to look it up. Larry

1550 power needle

IP: 166.181.82.8 Posted on March 27, 2016 at 05:56:46 PM by Larry kieffer

Still trying to figure the old girl out. Found a old mechanic and he went through everything. Checked and replaced everything that needed doing on the electrical . The problem were still having is that when you open it up it stalls out. Looking at the carburetor he thought the opening for the gas on the tip of the power needle to be to small. Got to checking even though there different carburetor the 550 and 1550 share the same power needle I was wondering if that's what is causing it to stall out? Would you have a original power needle or know someone that has one thank

Re(1): 1550 power needle

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 28, 2016 at 07:56:15 AM by Larry Harsin

Try removing the power jet from the bowl casting of the carb. This limits the amount of fuel that can get down to the adjusting needle. In this same situation, I have discarded this power jet and it has helped. Larry

Re(2): 1550 power needle

IP: 166.181.83.79 Posted on March 28, 2016 at 04:25:25 PM by Larry kieffer

Wish there was a picture but in my itt book it's chapter 89 and no pictures. What I'm questioning is the adjustment needle where the gas goes through into the carburetor that opening looks small and I was wondering if there being used on both 550 and 1550 maybe it's to small and not delivering enough gas to be mixed with air . It cuts out when you try and open it up. I just noticed that they list both power jet and economizer jet I wonder what's the difference it been nice if they had put a picture in Thanks Larry

Re(3): 1550 power needle

IP: 64.250.68.12 Posted on March 28, 2016 at 09:15:03 AM by Brad

I have owners manual and IT shop manual and neither has a part called "power jet". Is there something else to look for? Thanks.

Re(4): 1550 power needle

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 29, 2016 at 07:36:00 AM by Larry Harsin

The power jet lets the gas down into the load needle. It is not hard to remove it. Larry

1250 trans

IP: 208.114.164.194 Posted on March 25, 2016 at 05:06:09 AM by Allan

I have a 1250 ####shutt that just quit shifting into high range no grinding or funny noises I just took it out and now the shifter fork won't go ahead all the way . please help.

Re(1): 1250 trans

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 25, 2016 at 07:27:52 AM by Larry Harsin

I really don't work on the Fiat Olivers. They were built in Italy and just weren't sold in this area. I suggest you get a Shop Manual from the Museum in Charles City, IA, and perhaps you can figure it out. 641-228-1099. Larry

2255 size width

IP: 1.152.97.97 Posted on March 21, 2016 at 05:48:45 PM by Mark

Hi Larry can you tell me is the 2255 same width as 1950 axle to axle is just on 8feet was there different axle ? Or is 2255 wider .cheers Mark

Re(1): 2255 size width

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 22, 2016 at 08:12:12 AM by Larry Harsin

I don't know. Their axles are different from each other. But, my opinion is that they would be the same but I don't know. If you have the Operator's Manuals for them, they would tell you. Larry

sleeve setting

IP: 66.230.245.170 Posted on March 20, 2016 at 02:38:13 PM by Arnie

How many thousands should the sleeves protrude on a 1650 gas? Thanks..Arnie

Re(1): sleeve setting

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 22, 2016 at 08:14:39 AM by Larry Harsin

It is .001 to .004. Larry

1800 A checkerboard, with an 1850 hydrolic unit

IP: 173.248.9.145 Posted on March 18, 2016 at 07:51:49 PM by Larry Evers

I had a 1850 hydrolic/ rockshaft put on my 1800 series A checkerboard tractor. With a new gear cut the right way, it fit right on, but now the 3 point lever will not stay where you put it, it automatically goes to the up position when you let go, but as soon as you shut off the tractor the 3 point arms drop down as low as they can go even with the lever in the up position. It also leaks hydrolic oil into the rearend like crazy. Not sure if it's that o ring in there, but it sure leaks down fast. Lastly the scvs have so much pressure, you can barley hook up or disconnect the hydrolic hoses. It has plenty of lift power now, but I sure miss having things working like they should. Any help or information would be greatly appreciated!Thanks, Larry ,Evers Acres LLC

Re(1): 1800 A checkerboard, with an 1850 hydrolic unit

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 19, 2016 at 08:15:10 AM by Larry Harsin

For all of this to discuss, call me this evening. 712-362-2966 Larry

1365 steering

IP: 38.103.122.203 Posted on March 13, 2016 at 10:07:49 AM by Jim

Replaced seals on steering cylinder on 1365,they don't leak anymore but when you start engine the steering goes all the way to left lock by itself.with engine off you can run both ways just fine. Didn't mess with pump or anything,just seals on cylinder,stuck or sticky calving in pump?

Re(1): 1365 steering

IP: 38.103.122.203 Posted on March 13, 2016 at 10:10:41 AM by Jim

Stuck or sticky Valving

Re(2): 1365 steering

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 14, 2016 at 09:06:49 AM by Larry Harsin

I would say that stuck or sticky valving is correct. Larry

hubs

IP: 66.230.245.170 Posted on March 11, 2016 at 02:04:09 PM by Arnie

I have a guy I work for who has 4 Olivers that need front wheel packing. 3 of them have hubs # 155193A and 1 has hubs # 161964A. What is the difference and what is the interchangeability? Thanks.. Arnie

Re(1): hubs

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 14, 2016 at 09:04:46 AM by Larry Harsin

The difference could be the difference between a narrow front and a wide front or could be for flotation tires. The 2 hubs you mention could require different bearings but probably would use the same seal. Larry

1650 Gas sleeve sealing

IP: 66.230.245.170 Posted on March 9, 2016 at 06:17:32 AM by Arnie

Doing out of frame rebuild. Block ok and not eroded. What is the best way to seal bottom of new sleeves to block. Thanks Arnie

Re(1): 1650 Gas sleeve sealing

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 10, 2016 at 08:01:50 AM by Larry Harsin

I use the O rings provided and use liquid dish soap to install them. Larry

Cockshutt 1650 steering

IP: 70.198.36.122 Posted on March 8, 2016 at 05:50:07 PM by Cory Larson

I have a 1650 Cockshutt diesel that I thought was the smoothest thing since butter; until (after the prompting of a friend) I tried to adjust the length of the steering wheel. I loosened the jamb nut and pulled out about 2", drove about 300 yards and found no resistence in the wheel. I assume there is a splined shaft and gear that have become disengaged; but I'd be grateful for a little direction as to how to accomplish their reunion.

Re(1): Cockshutt 1650 steering

IP: 172.4.207.196 Posted on March 8, 2016 at 07:59:42 PM by Harry D.

http://www.agcopartsbooks.com/PartsBooksN/Viewer/book.aspx?book=agco/w433121 Above is a link to the parts book, look at page 472. I imagine you you pulled the item #9 up far enough that it became off the spline on the steering unit 1650 steering

Re(2): Cockshutt 1650 steering

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 10, 2016 at 08:00:17 AM by Larry Harsin

You are going to have to take it apart and clean it up. It will then have to be put back the way it was before you started. Larry

880 Hyd Control Gaskets

IP: 69.9.218.95 Posted on March 7, 2016 at 11:54:22 AM by Dave

Can you help me locate some gaskets for the 880 dual lever hyd controls? Part # 1KA-2003-A and 1K-2005-B. Also looking for some control lever boots part # 1K-2060-A. Thanks in advance for your help. Dave

Re(1): 880 Hyd Control Gaskets

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 8, 2016 at 08:25:36 AM by Larry Harsin

Contact Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Larry

Re(2): 880 Hyd Control Gaskets

IP: 98.21.22.14 Posted on March 8, 2016 at 10:18:51 AM by 2-stroke DD

I just went threw an 880 hyd. unit all gskts. and boots were available thru Agco.

1850 transmission

IP: 209.52.88.29 Posted on March 6, 2016 at 10:09:16 AM by Dave

1850 diesel. Other day put in gear. Tractor moved a little stopped and heard a grinding sound. Tried all other gears. Fleet like a positive engagement on shifter but no motion of tractor and just grinding sound. Shut off restarted and transmission started working again as normal. Any thoughts on what is wrong. Thanks for your help.

Re(1): 1850 transmission

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 8, 2016 at 08:24:15 AM by Larry Harsin

It could be something wrong in the top cluster on the input shaft. Possibly worn splines where the drive sprocket drives the input shaft also. Larry

3 point

IP: 104.235.33.231 Posted on March 5, 2016 at 05:14:10 PM by Rob Schmitt

Have a 550 that the 3pt keeps creeping up when mowing.Gets bad the longer you are mowing and the warmer everything is

Re(1): 3 point

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 8, 2016 at 08:22:24 AM by Larry Harsin

I'd check the Operator's Manual about blocking out the draft control when mowing. There is a stop bolt that is to be screwed out against the seat bracket. Larry

1855 PTO shaft

IP: 69.10.126.72 Posted on March 2, 2016 at 09:02:21 AM by David Acorn

Had to replace the 60" long shaft because original one's teeth were wore out. After installing the new one the clutch wont engage and shaft is not turning. What did I do wrong?

Re(1): 1855 PTO shaft

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 8, 2016 at 08:20:17 AM by Larry Harsin

I don't know what you did wrong. It should be evident. Maybe the hub up in the engine fly wheel is worn, too. Larry

changing engines

IP: 216.47.58.231 Posted on March 1, 2016 at 08:55:33 PM by bill

I have a 1650 with casting number 221620 and have found and engine from a 1755 with same casting number will this fit into my 1650?

Re(1): changing engines

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on March 8, 2016 at 08:18:11 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes. Larry

Oliver 2255

IP: 70.57.237.166 Posted on March 1, 2016 at 08:09:13 AM by Jack

What brand of hydraulic valve is on the 2255 my valves are the float valves. Where can I buy new ones or parts.They leak by.

Re(1): Oliver 2255

IP: 98.21.22.14 Posted on March 1, 2016 at 09:26:12 PM by Clint Bauer

If you have float valves you can get the O-rings and seals through Agco . The float valves will always leak down slowly they do not have poppets to seal off the oil they depend on the tightness of the valve spool in the housing to hold the oil so there is always a little seepage past the spool. The detent valves will hold for a very long time if the poppets are good .