Mid April thru June 6, 2001 "Ask The Oliver Mechanic" Archive

"Ask The Oliver Mechanic" Mid April thru June 6, 2001 Archives

year

Posted by lwilson9979 on June 05, 2001 at 10:29:16: IP Address: 64.12.102.173 I have an oliver super 55 and i was wondering what year it is. the serial # is 12-321-518. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Re: year

Posted by Larry Harsin on June 05, 2001 at 14:35:51: IP Address: 209.163.7.70 In Reply to: year posted by lwilson9979 on June 05, 2001 at 10:29:16: Your S55 is a 1955. If you need an Operator's Manual, you can get one at Oliver Hdq. from Mary Ann Townsend hpocacc@fiai.net. Larry

880 hydraulics

Posted by Mike on June 05, 2001 at 09:27:48: IP Address: 172.138.140.204 Hi Larry--Fantastic website!! I am having problems with the hydraulics on my early model 880. The pump is fine. It has a new center plate and all surfaces have been reground. The relief valve seat was pushed out of the aluminum base so I had the shop heli-coil it back in. I use 10W non detergent oil in the system. When the system is cold my guage shows about 1300 psi and when it warms up it's 1150. I hear the relief valve open when it's cold but not when it's warm. It can just barely lift my 241 ten foot disc. I have also replaced all the o-rings in the base and valve bodies. The problem is consistent in both valves and with any three inch cylinder that I use. Do you think the pressure is leaking out through the heli-coil or could it be something else? Many thanks to you for your help!! Mike

Re: 880 hydraulics

Posted by Larry Harsin on June 05, 2001 at 14:32:43: IP Address: 209.163.7.70 In Reply to: 880 hydraulics posted by Mike on June 05, 2001 at 09:27:48: Mike. Can you get that pressure reading with a 1000 rpm on the engine? It sounds to me like it is not developing the pressure that your gauge is saying it is. It about has to be the pump or the relief valve. The heli-coil repair might be suspect. Larry

hydralics for super 55

Posted by lwilson9979 on June 04, 2001 at 19:00:31: IP Address: 205.188.195.21 I was wondering what kind of fluids do i put in the hydralic and trans.

Re: hydralics for super 55

Posted by Larry Harsin on June 04, 2001 at 23:43:53: IP Address: 209.163.7.32 In Reply to: hydralics for super 55 posted by lwilson9979 on June 04, 2001 at 19:00:31: I would use Hy-Tran transmission fluid or the equivalent of it. It is 2 separate compartments, so you'll have to fill each one separately. Larry

parts site

Posted by Don on June 03, 2001 at 17:51:41: IP Address: 205.188.196.39 I just found an Oliver parts site that specializes in everything pre-white owned oliver. They even do all wiring harnesses for those tractors. Should check it out some time. www.korvesoliver.com Don

Re: parts site

Posted by Larry Harsin on June 03, 2001 at 21:52:09: IP Address: 209.163.7.71 In Reply to: parts site posted by Don on June 03, 2001 at 17:51:41: Yes, we know the Korves Bros. and reccomend their site from time to time. Thanks for saying so again. Larry

88 Oliver Diesel Starter

Posted by Greg on May 31, 2001 at 14:59:59: IP Address: 204.211.9.161 Where can I get parts to rebuild an 88 Oliver diesel starter. The main parts needed are the upper and lower field coils. Delco Remy tells me they were discontinued in the 1980s. The local starter shops here in North Carolina have been unable to locate the parts. People do have rebuilt starters for sale, so I'm sure the parts are available. The rebuilt starters are pricey. I can get mine repaired for under $50.00 if I can get the parts. Thank you for your help. Greg Davis North Carolina

Re: 88 Oliver Diesel Starter

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 31, 2001 at 23:14:24: IP Address: 209.163.7.24 In Reply to: 88 Oliver Diesel Starter posted by Greg on May 31, 2001 at 14:59:59: I don't have any of those. Check with Chuck McFarlane in WI: 608-643-8388. Or check with Tom at O'Brien Co Impl. 800-320-6224. He has a lot of new 'old stock' Oliver parts. Good Luck, Larry

Super 55 PTO clutch?

Posted by Keith on May 29, 2001 at 05:31:08: IP Address: 216.158.64.43 Larry, Got the PTO clutch out of the 55 over the Holiday. The plates don't seem to be the problem. They are oil soaked but should clean up with brake cleaner. When looking at the clutch work (moving the PTO control lever) before removing it I noticed that the clutch sleeve collar assembly was worn. this will probably put me out more than a set of clutches. Have any idea how much, so I don't faint at my dealers parts desk? Is the part readily available at my dealer? we work the same hours and I normally have to take off work to go there, don't want to waste a trip.

Re: Super 55 PTO clutch?

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 29, 2001 at 07:17:19: IP Address: 209.163.7.15 In Reply to: Super 55 PTO clutch? posted by Keith on May 29, 2001 at 05:31:08: I really don't know the cost or availability of those parts. Why don't you call your dealer first. Larry

Re: Super 55 PTO clutch?

Posted by Keith on May 29, 2001 at 21:07:07: IP Address: 216.158.64.43 In Reply to: Re: Super 55 PTO clutch? posted by Larry Harsin on May 29, 2001 at 07:17:19: The Sleeve was 23.00 but the collar will set me back $170. Got advice to any novice like myself. Make sure you have that 35 lbs of pull on the pto before purchasing a tractor. I didn't know this and don't feel I got such a good deal on this tractor any longer.

Re: Super 55 PTO clutch?

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 30, 2001 at 02:05:06: IP Address: 209.163.7.41 In Reply to: Re: Super 55 PTO clutch? posted by Keith on May 29, 2001 at 21:07:07: Try checking for those parts with Tim Smith at Smitty's Tractor Parts at Dalton OH. 330-832-9792 It is best to call him in the evening. He may have some used parts for less money. Larry

Re: Super 55 PTO clutch?

Posted by Keith on June 03, 2001 at 09:13:10: IP Address: 216.158.72.150 In Reply to: Re: Super 55 PTO clutch? posted by Larry Harsin on May 30, 2001 at 02:05:06: Have got all the parts. Was trying to install the clutch assembly, but having trouble getting it to side on. It gets to the point where the clutch plates are about to go into the cup that they should ride in. the set screw is backed out. Is there a trick to this?

Re: Super 55 PTO clutch?

Posted by Keith on June 04, 2001 at 21:40:00: IP Address: 216.158.72.222 In Reply to: Re: Super 55 PTO clutch? posted by Keith on June 03, 2001 at 09:13:10: Got it in and running. I was trying to put the whole assembly in at once instead the clutch needed to be assembled in pieces, one plate at a time onto the shaft.

Re: Super 55 PTO clutch?

Posted by Larry Harsin on June 06, 2001 at 08:11:21: IP Address: 209.163.7.90 In Reply to: Re: Super 55 PTO clutch? posted by Keith on June 04, 2001 at 21:40:00: Missed seeing your previous posting. Glad to hear that you got it going. Larry

1755 Gas Problems

Posted by Thomas on May 28, 2001 at 09:39:53: IP Address: 216.138.13.28 We bought a 1755 this winter it was not runing right it did not have any power we rebilt the zenith carb it looked like the inside of an exaust pipe the gasket was not in there right that fixed most of it then it seemes to missfire and caryon some times and just up and die untel the other day I was mowing it started to mis and back fire and then it died tried to start it would belch fire out the mufler back fire and would not start I let it cool of tried agan it would start run a few seconds and die then notheng we puled it up to the shed there was no water in the gas tore in the dash put a new ignition switch in it tried it ran about 5 seconds and then notheng we looked at the distributor it is a holly the cap looks brand new the points did not sem to make a gap there is a plastic ear theng that the points bolt to sems to have slop in it is that normal or dus the vacume advance titen it up can you still by that part or am I out of luck the dealer wants to sell a replasement destributer can you get a rebild kit for the holly. Thank you Thomas Jansen

Re: 1755 Gas Problems

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 28, 2001 at 14:31:05: IP Address: 209.163.7.17 In Reply to: 1755 Gas Problems posted by Thomas on May 28, 2001 at 09:39:53: I would suspect that possibly you have a condenser that is bad. Those points are a little bit tricky to adjust but that Holly is a good distributor. They should have .025 gap. Also, if the condenser doesn't rectify the situation, the wire that comes from the ignition switch to the coil might be bad. This is the resistance wire and sometimes they break down after time and they don't keep the right amount of current down to the coil. To check this out, run a jumper wire from the battery directly to the coil and see if the tractor keeps running. If this proves to be the problem, you'll have to run a wire directly from the ignition switch to the coil. If it burns the points, you may have to go to your automotive store and get a 12 to 6 volt resistor. Larry

Re: 1755 Gas Problems

Posted by John on May 28, 2001 at 16:44:07: IP Address: 63.15.121.19 In Reply to: Re: 1755 Gas Problems posted by Larry Harsin on May 28, 2001 at 14:31:05: I had the same problem with a gas 1650/Holly dist. Cured it with an electronic ignition kit from Genesee Products. They advertise on Yesterday's Tractors web site. Kit recently redesigned to have a replacement for that worn nylon pad. Hope this helps

Re: 1755 Gas Problems

Posted by Thomas on May 28, 2001 at 23:28:19: IP Address: 216.138.15.87 In Reply to: 1755 Gas Problems posted by Thomas on May 28, 2001 at 09:39:53: WE put a set of plug wires and a condenser on it and epoxeyed up the ear thing, and Finaly got the gap set. It runs alot beter semes to be more responsive but when it got warmed up it semed to be a littel off yet but it is runing beter than it has. I will have to check into what you giys said. thank you Thomas Jansen

Proper Fluid for Hydraulic System

Posted by bwhite on May 28, 2001 at 08:08:20: IP Address: 198.108.160.51 Thanks for your help on the tachhour guage. I have another question about the proper fluid to use in the 1800 series C gas Oliver hydraulic system. The operator's manual calls for 10 weight engine oil with oil additive 102 082-A added in the ratio of 16 to 1. Is it necessary to use 10W engine oil with this additive or can one use regular 10W hydraulic oil available at the Tractor Supply Store locally? Your help is greatly appreciated.

Re: Proper Fluid for Hydraulic System

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 28, 2001 at 08:14:56: IP Address: 209.163.7.9 In Reply to: Proper Fluid for Hydraulic System posted by bwhite on May 28, 2001 at 08:08:20: The 10W hydraulic oil at Tractor Supply will work fine. Larry

1755 gas

Posted by rick on May 27, 2001 at 11:17:55: IP Address: 216.248.71.16 I have a 1755 gas tractor. I lost fuel pump out of it. I couldnt find a mechanical pump for it so I converted and put electric pump on it. I am now on 3rd fuel pump. I cant seem to keep it running smoothly. Put all new plugs wires,switch coils points etc. Have took fuel tank off flushed it out also. Still have problems. Now carb is leaking staight thru. I have rebuilt it twice. It has zenith carb. Would it help to simply put whole new carb on. You think I have wrong size fuel pump? When I have it running at its best it just still sounds like missing little bit. Help I am running out ideas. I sure miss it when not running.

Re: 1755 gas

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 27, 2001 at 20:49:12: IP Address: 209.163.7.75 In Reply to: 1755 gas posted by rick on May 27, 2001 at 11:17:55: Check your spark plug wires and your cap and rotor. I've had instances when the distributor rotor was bad and it would make it run like that. Try a new distributor rotor and possibly a cap. Also make certain that you have good plug wires. Make sure you have the wires with copper in them instead of the resistance wires. Korves Bros. has spark plug wires for these tractors. 618-939-8772 I can get you a used Marvel-Shebler carburator if you think you need one. Larry

Tachhour meter

Posted by bwhite on May 26, 2001 at 23:29:34: IP Address: 198.108.160.55 Hi Larry. I have a 1964 1800 gas. Just got it. The tachhour meter spins real fast instead of showing the engine rpm. I took tha meter apart and apparently the spring that keeps the needle from spinning has broken, and now the need spins freely. I could put it back together as the hourmeter stills works, but I would like to have the tack part working also. Do you have a used tachhour meter for this tractor? Also, the rubber boot at the bottom of the shift lever is bad. Do you have one of those? Thanks for you help.

Re: Tachhour meter

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 27, 2001 at 20:40:36: IP Address: 209.163.7.75 In Reply to: Tachhour meter posted by bwhite on May 26, 2001 at 23:29:34: I don't have the Tachhour parts that you need. Call Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. He will have the boot also. Larry

pto fluid

Posted by bob on May 26, 2001 at 09:58:20: IP Address: 64.12.104.38 LARRY I HAVE A 1962 OLIVER770 GAS HOW MUCH FLUID GOES IN THE PTO SHAFT ARE , WHAT KIND OF FLUID AND WHERE DO YOU INSTALL IT THERE IS A LARGE PLUG BELOW THE SEAT, AND TWO IN THE REAR ONE LOOKS LIKE A DRAIN THE OTHER A FILL IM CUNFUSED THANKS HOW MUCH FOR THE WIDE FRONT END FOR 770 THANK YOU BOB

Re: pto fluid

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 26, 2001 at 14:38:37: IP Address: 209.163.7.49 In Reply to: pto fluid posted by bob on May 26, 2001 at 09:58:20: Bob. It holds a cup to a pint of 80-90 transmission grease. Pour it in below the seat. Of the other two, the little one facing back is a level plug. I don't know what the other one might be. Do you have an operator's manual? Get one from Oliver Hdq. Mary Ann Townsend at hpocacc@fiai.net. I have a wide front for $600 and one for $750. One is an adjustable front and the other is a fixed tread high clearance front end and includes rims and tires. Larry

1550 hard shifting

Posted by Brian on May 26, 2001 at 01:15:29: IP Address: 209.83.43.67 My 1550 is awful fussy about shifting, especially R2-4 and R1-2. You really have to hold it tight to the right side when throwing the lever up or down. Original owner says it's been that way since new. I don't doubt him - he's one of the most honest fellas I know. Any way to "loosen" 'er up a little? Mighty fine machine otherwise.

Re: 1550 hard shifting

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 26, 2001 at 07:42:18: IP Address: 209.163.7.74 In Reply to: 1550 hard shifting posted by Brian on May 26, 2001 at 01:15:29: The only thing I would know is to take the shifting mechanism apart and grind off the poppet spring. Or put in a shorter spring. Don't grind off too much at a time, it will be a trial and error thing. Larry

Re: 1550 hard shifting

Posted by Brian on May 27, 2001 at 00:34:39: IP Address: 209.83.43.49 In Reply to: Re: 1550 hard shifting posted by Larry Harsin on May 26, 2001 at 07:42:18: Thanks for the fast reply Larry. I'll pull her apart and have a look.

Re: 1550 hard shifting

Posted by Lary Wolfe on May 27, 2001 at 12:17:28: IP Address: 64.244.12.232 In Reply to: Re: 1550 hard shifting posted by Brian on May 27, 2001 at 00:34:39: It could be other things,like the pin that keeps the lever allined or the shift fork could be bent and binding.

Super 55 PTO clutches?

Posted by Keith on May 25, 2001 at 19:27:33: IP Address: 216.158.64.43 Hi Larry Haven't had any Questions for some time. Had trouble finding the new site for a short while. Nice Job. Have not had to use the pto since buying this old girl. Now I have bought a finish mower. The clutches slip when engaged. Adjusted it up about 3 notches and it was better but still slipping a bit. Adjusted it up 4 more notches and now I seem to be out of adjustment. (it won't turn any further) Pull on the lever is only 15 - 20 lbs I would guess. It is a early model so it should be about 50 lbs. Am I at the point that I should start looking for clutch plates? if So I have never split a tractor. Is it really as easy as 6 bolts? I have no way of suspending the front half. I'm afraid I have to much of a span in my barn to use the 2x4 Rafters.Can you block up the front and drop down the rear section a few inches and roll it back? Thanks again for being there.

Re: Super 55 PTO clutches

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 25, 2001 at 23:36:44: IP Address: 209.163.7.21 In Reply to: Super 55 PTO clutches? posted by Keith on May 25, 2001 at 19:27:33: Yes. You need new clutch plates. Yes, do the Z split on the tractor. You will need to support the front half some way. Under a tree or some place. It is tippy if you don't use overhead support for the front half. The Z split is shown in your service manual. Larry

Waukesha Piston

Posted by Jim on May 25, 2001 at 11:35:32: IP Address: 216.145.161.207 I'am looking for a 4 1/2 inch bore piston for a waukesha VIK motor used in Oliver 80 or Huber tractors.

Re: Waukesha Piston

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 25, 2001 at 23:30:23: IP Address: 209.163.7.21 In Reply to: Waukesha Piston posted by Jim on May 25, 2001 at 11:35:32: Contact Arnold Meyer at 507-372-7788. He may have a piston or know where to get one. Larry

Rocker Arm Bushings Overhaul 1550 gas

Posted by BRMAX on May 25, 2001 at 02:50:00: IP Address: 152.163.201.54 Is there bushings available if a person was to clean up the shaft about .010 and/or should i plan to have some made from bronze660,or some wrist pin bushings if lucky. I reworked the valves but the rockershaft was pluged and wore shaft at the rear section .005 on the bottom & babbit is not lookin real good in existing bushings. If i just polished the shaft with emery and installed new ones they would be better than at the present, I took them apart an hour ago and have'nt checked any where yet. Thanks for any ideas or part no.s And have a Good Memorial weekend

Re: Rocker Arm Bushings Overhaul 1550 gas

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 25, 2001 at 08:24:02: IP Address: 209.163.7.9 In Reply to: Rocker Arm Bushings Overhaul 1550 gas posted by BRMAX on May 25, 2001 at 02:50:00: Check with Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. You might be able to buy a used rocker arm assembly. Larry

Super 55 questions

Posted by Jake on May 24, 2001 at 00:52:31: IP Address: 207.74.92.41 Larry hope you can give some 55 inf.[I have 2]. 1 The hyd pump is noisy under max lift and air bubbles are present. Have tried several oils and know the gaskets are tight, could it be the pump front seal ? 2 A 1957 had a loader on with the factory control[now gone] do you have a diagram of the cover showing what the different ports are for as I want to mount a spool to control a snow plow. Appreciate any help you can give. Thanks

Re: Super 55 questions

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 24, 2001 at 09:11:51: IP Address: 209.163.7.12 In Reply to: Super 55 questions posted by Jake on May 24, 2001 at 00:52:31: I don't know for sure. You may have a cam ring in the pump that is becoming worn and rough and may be causing the noise. You may need to repair the pump. (2) I may have a diagram in a shop manual. I'll see what I can find this evening. Email your address and I can send it if I find it. Larry

66 row crop won't rev up?

Posted by Tom Rowe-Drake on May 23, 2001 at 22:36:34: IP Address: 4.45.156.128 my 66 won't rev up unless i pull back on the gov arm by the a/cleaner. Of course there is a great resistance when I do this 'cause the gov. wants to keep it steady. I've tried to set up the gov control linkage by the book but things don't seam to come out right. It looks like some one has put a new gov. housing and timing cover on resently . Any help would be appreciated . Please answer on my e-mail . Thanks Tom. I'll see you in Plain City anyway.

Re: 66 row crop won't rev up?

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 23, 2001 at 23:53:32: IP Address: 209.163.7.43 In Reply to: 66 row crop won't rev up? posted by Tom Rowe-Drake on May 23, 2001 at 22:36:34: You'll probably have to take the governor housing off and take the governor assembly out and inspect it. Before doing this, inspect the throttle shaft in the carb. to make sure it is not broken. Larry

88 version 3 hydraulic pum

Posted by Greg on May 23, 2001 at 14:58:45: IP Address: 204.211.9.159 Larry, I just rebuilt an 88 hydraulic pump. Went through the spools and the pump itself (seals and bearings) and the relief valve. The gears inside the pump did not seem to be worn. One gauge shows I'm getting 600 psi and another shows 900 psi. I have to rev the engine to get good lifting power. Any ideas? Thanks, Greg Davis North Carolina

Re: 88 version 3 hydraulic pum

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 23, 2001 at 23:49:43: IP Address: 209.163.7.43 In Reply to: 88 version 3 hydraulic pum posted by Greg on May 23, 2001 at 14:58:45: You may need to replace the relief valve seat. It may be pounded out. The relief valve seat, where it is secured in the base plate may have stripped the threads out. Larry

770 hydraulics problem

Posted by JK-NY on May 23, 2001 at 09:03:55: IP Address: 209.240.220.161 Larry I have a 770 with the non electric hydraulic unit. I hooked onto my discs this spring and it wouldnt lift them. I pressure tested the hyd. system and have 300psi. My first thought is the relief valve. Can I remove this relief valve assy without draining the hyd resevoir. I just changed hyd oil this spring. Any other ideas what could be wrong? Thank you in advance.

Re: 770 hydraulics problem

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 23, 2001 at 23:46:32: IP Address: 209.163.7.43 In Reply to: 770 hydraulics problem posted by JK-NY on May 23, 2001 at 09:03:55: You have to drain the hydraulic to check the relief valve. You could have a bad pump or you could have a broken control valve assembly. You'll just have to look and find it. I do have parts once you find the problem. Larry

Super 55 PTO inop.

Posted by Bootss on May 22, 2001 at 10:42:37: IP Address: 208.223.205.166 Great site! I have pulled the upper case cover and see nothing wrong in the pto shaft,pin,bearing,etc.I now suspect the problen lies at the front of the pto shaft? As this is my first attempt at tractor repair i am short on info and have no manual to go by.Their is a factory Oliver front loader currently on the tractor.Any help or advise would be a help.Must i remove the shaft from the front half somehow or how would you proceed ?Thanks again and again a great site

Re: Super 55 PTO inop.

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 22, 2001 at 22:18:10: IP Address: 209.163.7.15 In Reply to: Super 55 PTO inop. posted by Bootss on May 22, 2001 at 10:42:37: You are going to have to get a repair manual. You can get one from Mary Ann Townsend at Oliver Hdqts. at Charles City: hpocacc@fiai.net. You are going to have to do what is called a "Z" split on the tractor in order to repair the PTO clutch. This will be illustrated in the repair manual when you get it. This is a must so you know what you are doing. Larry

Favour?

Posted by Gordon Carson on May 21, 2001 at 19:12:54: IP Address: 161.184.180.251 Hello. I'm from Edmonton, Canada and am having trouble finding an oil filter bracket (the kind that the oil filter must screw into) for my Oliver Super55. Do you have any suggestions as to where I'd find such a part? If you know of a dealer or even a catologue I could access to find future parts please let me know as soon as possible as I'm anxious to get my tractor running. Thanks, Gordon Carson

Re: Favour?

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 21, 2001 at 19:21:17: IP Address: 209.163.7.42 In Reply to: Favour? posted by Gordon Carson on May 21, 2001 at 19:12:54: Contact Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. I have one where the filter sits on the straight but not the one where the filter sits on an angle. Tom would be your best bet. Larry

Oliver 88 Fluids

Posted by bill nicholson on May 18, 2001 at 11:15:29: IP Address: 216.179.5.151 I just replaced a PTO clutch and shaft on a 1956 Oliver 88 Row crop. Could you please tell me the fluids and amounts that go into this tractor. Oil, hydrolic, etc.

Re: Oliver 88 Fluids

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 18, 2001 at 23:20:02: IP Address: 209.163.7.62 In Reply to: Oliver 88 Fluids posted by bill nicholson on May 18, 2001 at 11:15:29: Hi Bill. For the hydraulic would be an anti-foam 20 wt. hydraulic fluid. Approx. 6 or 7 qts. Transmission uses 85 - 140 transmission qrease. Approx. 4 gal. PTO drive housing about a pt. of 85 - 140 transmission grease. I reccommend 10w-30 or 15w-40 for the engine. Larry

oliver 88 converting to wide front

Posted by Joe on May 17, 2001 at 21:59:34: IP Address: 66.68.28.110 Is it easily possible to convert an oliver 88 from narrow front to wide front if I had a parts tractor?

Re: oliver 88 converting to wide front

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 18, 2001 at 07:20:43: IP Address: 209.163.7.81 In Reply to: oliver 88 converting to wide front posted by Joe on May 17, 2001 at 21:59:34: Joe, It is not a problem. Larry

1250 hydraulics

Posted by lephoss on May 16, 2001 at 17:06:04: IP Address: 198.152.13.71 I have a gas 1250 with a loader, with hydraulic bucket, that is operating from a 2 lever valve connected to the remote outlet, it also has power steering. There are 2 auxilary pumps for the hydraulics, I believe 1 is for the power steering. The 3 point will not lift at all and the loader and bucket will raise, lower and dump, but have almost no lifting power and will only work at 2/3+ throttle. Any ideas??? THANKS, LYN

Re: 1250 hydraulics

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 17, 2001 at 07:45:44: IP Address: 209.163.7.55 In Reply to: 1250 hydraulics posted by lephoss on May 16, 2001 at 17:06:04: My first guess is that the hydraulic pump is worn out. Larry

Re: 1250 hydraulics

Posted by lephoss on May 17, 2001 at 18:16:39: IP Address: 198.152.13.71 In Reply to: Re: 1250 hydraulics posted by Larry Harsin on May 17, 2001 at 07:45:44: Thanks Larry, I don't suppose that there is some kind of rebuild kit? Is the pump under the seat and on top of the rear end? LYN

Re: 1250 hydraulics

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 18, 2001 at 23:40:53: IP Address: 209.163.7.28 In Reply to: Re: 1250 hydraulics posted by lephoss on May 17, 2001 at 18:16:39: I'm not really up on the 1250, they weren't sold around here much. You should get a shop manual for your 1250. You can get one from Mary Ann Townsend at Oliver Hdqts. hpocacc@fiai.net Otherwise, you can talk to your AGCO Dealer or call Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. He can give you info and he can get parts to you. Larry

770 rear tires

Posted by Greg on May 14, 2001 at 16:08:43: IP Address: 63.164.209.57 Hello Larry,,,,, it has been a while since I have posted here. My 770 has 13.6 x 38 rear tires. A friend has some 15.5 x 38 tires,, will they fit on the rims ??? I have not shopped around for new tires,, what is a ball park figure for those,,, $300 each ??? I have a flat now,, the valve stem is rotten,,, [ nasty liquid filled tires ] plus the present tires do not match,, I do not need new tires,the old ones aren't too bad, but I wanted a matched pair, so I thought if these 15.5's would fit ok,,, I would have the tire guys come out and put in two new tubes and install those tires. What do you think ,,,,,,,,,? greg raser

Re: 770 rear tires

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 15, 2001 at 07:00:17: IP Address: 209.163.7.56 In Reply to: 770 rear tires posted by Greg on May 14, 2001 at 16:08:43: Greg. A 15.5 tire comes on a 14 inch rim. Ask your tire people what they think. They might fit on there, but they won't look right. $300 is in the ball park for those tires. Larry

Re: 770 rear tires

Posted by Greg on May 15, 2001 at 16:31:55: IP Address: 63.164.209.14 In Reply to: Re: 770 rear tires posted by Larry Harsin on May 15, 2001 at 07:00:17: Thanks,,,,, I will scrounge around,, and see if I can find some tires [ used ] around the area. There are a couple tire places within a short drive,, they may even have some used ones,, greg,,,,,,,,

Oliver Super 55

Posted by John Suhr on May 10, 2001 at 13:54:13: IP Address: 204.60.171.12 A friend of mine just purchased an Oliver Super 55 tractor. He would like to know: 1. What year the Super 55 was manufactured, 2. Any available information on the Super 55, 3. Where to purchase an owners manual, 4. Where to purchase repair parts, 5. Nearest repair shop for Oliver tractors?

Re: Oliver Super 55

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 10, 2001 at 14:45:51: IP Address: 209.163.7.72 In Reply to: Oliver Super 55 posted by John Suhr on May 10, 2001 at 13:54:13: Super 55 Olivers were built from 1954 - 1958. If you will send your serial number, I can tell you what year it was built. The S55 is an excellent little tractor. They are very desirable and in big demand. You can purchase an Operator's Manual from Mary Ann Townsend (hpocacc@fiai.net) at Oliver Hdqts. in Charles City IA. There are several places to purchase repair parts. Tom at O'Brien Co Impl. Sheldon IA 800-320-6224 or Tim Smith at Smitty's Tractor Parts Dalton OH 330-832-9792 (best to call him in the evening) or Central Tractor 888-828-3276. I can't tell you where your nearest repair shop is as I don't know where you are. Are you a member of the Hart-Parr Oliver Collectors' Assoc.? With a $20 membership you get a magazine that is worth the $20 and there are letters and ads etc etc. lots of information about Olivers. You can get a membership from Mary Ann when you order your Operator's Manual. Hope this helps. Larry

cockshutt made olver

Posted by Creed on May 09, 2001 at 18:18:33: IP Address: 63.114.86.200 why did oliver steal all of cocksutts ideas?wernt they smat enough to do it on their own?Creed

Re: cockshutt made olver

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 09, 2001 at 20:02:34: IP Address: 209.163.7.86 In Reply to: cockshutt made olver posted by Creed on May 09, 2001 at 18:18:33: According to things I have read, they both came with live power take off about the same time. I like the Oliver transmission and drive train better than the Cockshutt set up. I also like the Oliver-Wakesha engine better than the engine used in the Cockshutt. Their way of building tractors were 2 different ways. I don't feel that anyone stole anything from anybody there. Moreover, before 1946 Oliver built tractors for Cockshutt for over 10 years. After Cockshutt became a part of the White-Oliver Corp., Cockshutt's tractors were again built at Charles City IA. This doesn't mean that I think Cockshutt tractors weren't any good either, because they were good tractors in my estimation. Larry

Oliver 550 3 point probs

Posted by Fred on May 01, 2001 at 22:44:11: IP Address: 63.28.213.155 I have a box scraper on My 550 oliver desiel the thing is bouncing up and down like crazy if i dont have the thing all the way down if i put the lever at half way it hickups bad getting to be a real problem? i remmber seeing something about installing a clean filter and using non detergent gear oil? will this fix it or could it be something else? its a 1960 550 if that helps:-) Thanks... Fred

Re: Oliver 550 3 point probs

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 02, 2001 at 08:22:18: IP Address: 209.163.7.11 In Reply to: Oliver 550 3 point probs posted by Fred on May 01, 2001 at 22:44:11: Fred. I think you want to block out your draft control. On that tractor that should be behind the seat, on top of the hydraulic housing. I think on your tractor that is handled with a stop bolt. Check your Operator's Manual about deadening out your draft control. As far as the oils are concerned, for the hydraulic unit you should be using a 10 or 20 weight non-foaming hydraulic fluid. Again, refer to your Operator's Manual. Larry

Re: Oliver 550 3 point probs

Posted by Fred on May 03, 2001 at 23:51:26: IP Address: 63.24.26.178 In Reply to: Re: Oliver 550 3 point probs posted by Larry Harsin on May 02, 2001 at 08:22:18: Thanks Larry i'll take a look and see:-) Fred...

770 groaning rearend

Posted by jason on April 28, 2001 at 23:55:08: IP Address: 38.36.78.168 I have a 58 oliver 770LP when pulling up hill or on flat ground rear axle groans. but when going down hill is fairly quiet. Is this a ring and pinion problem? if so how can I reshim or should I hunt for another one? If it could be bull gears can I turn them around?

Re: 770 groaning rearend

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 29, 2001 at 06:31:27: IP Address: 209.163.7.74 In Reply to: 770 groaning rearend posted by jason on April 28, 2001 at 23:55:08: Jason. I don't know. My guess would be that you have bad axle bearings. Yes, bull gears can be changed side to side to wear on a new surface. Another thing to check would be loose bearings on the bevel pinion shaft and check for loose bearings on the counter shaft on the transmission. These are all adjustable. I have seen instances where the adjusting nut on the bevel pinion shaft has come clear off to cause a problem. First thing I'd do is jack each side up and check for loose axle bearings. Larry

1850 Gas

Posted by Johnnie on April 27, 2001 at 08:11:10: IP Address: 207.218.245.6 I have had tractor for 1 year bought in Iowa took home to south Texas. Started to plow the other day and noticed the exhaust manifold and 6" of the muffler will glow red at night when pulling hard but runs and pulls great any thoughts. Thanks

Re: 1850 Gas

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 27, 2001 at 20:01:27: IP Address: 209.163.7.13 In Reply to: 1850 Gas posted by Johnnie on April 27, 2001 at 08:11:10: That's normal. That's the way they are supposed to be. Keep the radiator clean and the fan belts tight and you will be o.k. Larry

Re: 1850 Gas

Posted by Johnnie on April 28, 2001 at 08:38:15: IP Address: 207.218.245.6 In Reply to: Re: 1850 Gas posted by Larry Harsin on April 27, 2001 at 20:01:27: That is auesome at night love them Olivers Thanks Larry. You are a good man.

1609 Oliver

Posted by Jean Coles on April 25, 2001 at 21:34:47: IP Address: 208.46.229.195 I bought this tractor from my mom just after my father passed away.What I need to know is can you tell me how to get an owners manual for this tractor.We need to know what kinds of fluids to put in it.We do not know the year.Here are some numbers we found on the tractor. On the left side of the motor WD323294PA,on the right side of the motor 113019-34 with a 2 under the number.On the left side on the rear end under the seat WD119621.I hope that this information will be enuogh to help us.We want to make sure we take care of this tractor.It means alot to me.Thank you Jean

Re: 1609 Oliver

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 26, 2001 at 07:48:21: IP Address: 209.163.7.45 In Reply to: 1609 Oliver posted by Jean Coles on April 25, 2001 at 21:34:47: Jean. I'm assuming we have a typo here and that the tractor is a 1600. Look for the serial number tag in front of your feet when you sit in the seat. (on a 1600). The "WD" part of the number you sent, I can't figure out. You can get a manual from Mary Ann Townsend at Oliver Hdq. in Charles City IA: hpocacc@fiai.net Mary Ann can tell you the year too, if you give her the correct serial number. Larry

Re: 1609 Oliver

Posted by Jean Coles on April 26, 2001 at 16:12:10: IP Address: 208.46.229.63 In Reply to: Re: 1609 Oliver posted by Larry Harsin on April 26, 2001 at 07:48:21: On the arm of the bucket there is a sticker that says 1609 Oliver.It could be of the 1600 series.I can not find a tag with a serial number.The only numbers I can find when I sit in the seat is either 18000I or 18600L the letter could either be I or L. and the there is this also L-LL-K8.I just hope this will help you help me.Thank You Jean Coles

Re: 1609 Oliver

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 26, 2001 at 21:00:04: IP Address: 209.163.7.5 In Reply to: Re: 1609 Oliver posted by Jean Coles on April 26, 2001 at 16:12:10: Jean. 1609 is the model of your Oliver loader. Are you sure the tractor is an Oliver? Could you send us a picture of it - either through email or a Poloroid in the mail? None of those numbers sound like Oliver numbers. Is this a Utility Tractor? Larry

1650 Hard to start

Posted by Tim Edenfield on April 22, 2001 at 17:34:54: IP Address: 204.49.134.111 Dear Mr. Harsin I have a 1650 diesel with the new style engine it has about 3500 hours showing. My problem is it will not crank without starting fluid unless it is already hot. I was wondering if there could be some problem besides being wornout and needing an overhaul. The tractor runs and works good after you crank it. I live in Florida so it is never that cold. It has a preheater and it works but it still doesn't help that much.

Re: 1650 Hard to start

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 22, 2001 at 18:17:38: IP Address: 209.163.7.91 In Reply to: 1650 Hard to start posted by Tim Edenfield on April 22, 2001 at 17:34:54: The first thing I'd do, is check my batteries and see if they are all up to specs. Then I'd check all my battery cables and connections. If this does not help, take the starter off and take it to a service center and have it checked out and repaired if needed. Has the engine ever had any work done to it? Regardless of engine condition, you have to have a good cranking speed for an engine to start. Good Luck. Larry

Re: 1650 Hard to start

Posted by Gary on April 22, 2001 at 20:32:32: IP Address: 199.120.77.117 In Reply to: 1650 Hard to start posted by Tim Edenfield on April 22, 2001 at 17:34:54: If this motor has been overhauled it could have the wrong spacer washers under the inj. There was a bulletin on these early direct inj. ones to change the spacer which lowered the inj. It also improved smoke. Gary

Re: 1650 Hard to start

Posted by Tim Edenfield on April 22, 2001 at 22:48:47: IP Address: 204.49.134.201 In Reply to: Re: 1650 Hard to start posted by Gary on April 22, 2001 at 20:32:32: I did put new injectors in this tractor a few years ago but I bought them at the local White dealer would they have the right amount of spacers from the factory?

Re: 1650 Hard to start

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 23, 2001 at 14:00:53: IP Address: 209.163.7.55 In Reply to: Re: 1650 Hard to start posted by Tim Edenfield on April 22, 2001 at 22:48:47: Tim. I would say they came with the correct spacers. Those tractors tend to be a little hard to start normally. I'd check the battery and cables and starter etc. Larry

Re: 1650 Hard to start

Posted by Don on April 24, 2001 at 23:14:21: IP Address: 152.163.206.178 In Reply to: Re: 1650 Hard to start posted by Larry Harsin on April 23, 2001 at 14:00:53: We had the same problem with our 1755, and after we had the rings replaced and a few other small things done to the head it starts fine. Don

Re: 1650 Hard to start

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 25, 2001 at 14:28:12: IP Address: 209.163.7.76 In Reply to: Re: 1650 Hard to start posted by Don on April 24, 2001 at 23:14:21: I received this email today. Maybe it will help. Larry Larry, I grew up on Oliver but spent career with IH and Case IH - much of it in service area. Not sure, but think the 1650 with the starting problem has Roosa Master pump which we also used in many applications. We used to crack an injection line open pretty much up front in the diagnostic process because if the delivery valve (inside the rotor shaft, but replaceable) would stick open, it would cause starting problems. It functioned just like a check valve to keep the line full and was needed only at cranking speed - engine would run fine after started. It's so easy to check for fuel and/or smoke during cranking - just thought I would mention. Have a good day. Joe

ID tractors

Posted by David Wells on April 20, 2001 at 14:58:35: IP Address: 161.184.19.135 I have two Olivers the smaller serial#5026 - 827505 is a standard 88 the second serial#82-045-723 is a 770. Can you tell me what years these are? The 88 has a dead engine. I suspect a snapped crank or other horrible failure. It made a ping and stopped running. The crank can not be turned over by any means. Are there used or rebuilt engines available, or are you aware of anyone who rebuilds them? Thanks David

Re: ID tractors

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 20, 2001 at 22:25:00: IP Address: 209.163.7.31 In Reply to: ID tractors posted by David Wells on April 20, 2001 at 14:58:35: David. Your Standard 88 is a 1952. I think your 770 is a 1959. I don't believe that 723 is actually part of the serial number. I can rebuild your engine for you if it needs it. Take the pan off and see if the crank is bad or a bearing is stuck or something. Send me an email as to where you are etc. and we can go from there. Larry

Re: ID tractors

Posted by David Wells on April 20, 2001 at 22:33:54: IP Address: 161.184.21.224 In Reply to: Re: ID tractors posted by Larry Harsin on April 20, 2001 at 22:25:00: Wow! talk about a quick response. Thanks for getting back to me. David

770 Hard to change gears

Posted by David Wells on April 20, 2001 at 14:17:12: IP Address: 161.184.22.32 I have a 770 in pretty good shape, but when I stop on a grade, or with a load pulling the tractor, it is impossible to change gears without moving the tractor a bit, and shifting as it is moving. On the level this does not occur. Recently I was nosed against a large tree while plowing snow. It took some doing to get away from it. Any suggestions as to what I should look for? Thanks David

Re: 770 Hard to change gears

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 20, 2001 at 22:16:08: IP Address: 209.163.7.31 In Reply to: 770 Hard to change gears posted by David Wells on April 20, 2001 at 14:17:12: David. You need to pull back your power booster lever when you need to shift gears. That will release them. Larry

Re: 770 Hard to change gears

Posted by David Wells on April 20, 2001 at 22:37:09: IP Address: 161.184.21.224 In Reply to: Re: 770 Hard to change gears posted by Larry Harsin on April 20, 2001 at 22:16:08: I guess I will have to order an operators manual. What the heck is a power booster, and where do I find the control. I appogogize for my ignorance. I spent my early years on a farm driving Case :) then 40 years in the city, only now returning to the country. Tractors have a lot more controls on them than your average car. Thanks again David

Re: 770 Hard to change gears

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 21, 2001 at 08:18:56: IP Address: 209.163.7.57 In Reply to: Re: 770 Hard to change gears posted by David Wells on April 20, 2001 at 22:37:09: David. You can get a manual from Mary Ann Townsend at hpocacc@fiai. Your power boost lever is on the left side of the steering wheel. It gives you high and low in each gear. Larry

Re: 770 Hard to change gears

Posted by David Wells on April 21, 2001 at 11:44:34: IP Address: 161.184.21.29 In Reply to: Re: 770 Hard to change gears posted by Larry Harsin on April 21, 2001 at 08:18:56: Thanks again David

1937 Oliver Tractor

Posted by rebecca on April 20, 2001 at 13:45:49: IP Address: 206.76.160.251 I was just wondering if anyone had a picture of a 1937 Oliver tractor. My great grandpa used to sell them way back when and we would like to print out a picture of one if anybody has a picture to share with us. Thanks! Rebecca Robinson

Re: 1937 Oliver Tractor

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 20, 2001 at 22:13:30: IP Address: 209.163.7.31 In Reply to: 1937 Oliver Tractor posted by rebecca on April 20, 2001 at 13:45:49: Rebecca. If you will email your address to me, I will send you a picture of my 1937 Oliver 70. Or we could copy one out of a book. Larry

Oliver 1250

Posted by Brad on April 19, 2001 at 20:35:46: IP Address: 64.12.105.21 I am very pleased to find your website! I inherited an Oliver model 125 2208 (or 1250 I believe) Serial # 713503. It is a diesel made in Italy by Fiat (in about 1966 to the best of my knowledge). Any idea were I can get my hands on manuals? Also, the local tractor dealer (St Paul, Oregon) suggests selling it because parts are hard to come by. Can you suggest a place to get parts? Thanks for any assistance you can offer me Brad Marsh Wilsonville, Oregon

Re: Oliver 1250

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 19, 2001 at 23:17:41: IP Address: 209.163.7.54 In Reply to: Oliver 1250 posted by Brad on April 19, 2001 at 20:35:46: Brad. You can get a manual from Hart-Parr Oliver Collector's Assoc. Hdq. in Charles City IA. Contact Mary Ann Townsend at hpocacc@fiai.net. As far as parts, contact Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Or maybe you could try Maibach Tractor in Creston OH 216-939-4192. Larry

oliver 66 dsl

Posted by Russ on April 18, 2001 at 18:12:41: IP Address: 204.42.28.250 Larry , did oliver make a lot of four cyl dsl moters. Im looking at buying a 66 dsl but the block is cracked . would this be a tough one to find.

Re: oliver 66 dsl

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 18, 2001 at 21:08:26: IP Address: 209.163.7.90 In Reply to: oliver 66 dsl posted by Russ on April 18, 2001 at 18:12:41: Russ. They built quite a few of them so it shouldn't be too hard to find. We knew a fellow in Montana who had one a year ago. I don't know if he still has it or not. It may be out of a S66 but it will work. If you will email me, I can send you his phone number or I can check it out for you if you wish. Larry

Re: oliver 66 dsl

Posted by Mike Nassif on April 28, 2001 at 21:13:02: IP Address: 199.3.100.18 In Reply to: Re: oliver 66 dsl posted by Larry Harsin on April 18, 2001 at 21:08:26: I have an Oliver Super 55 diesel that had a similar challenge, + a trashed crank. Central Tractor in Des Moines built me a short block for what I thought was a reasonable price, with a 1 year guarantee. Works good. They could probably do the same for you. Good luck

Oliver 77 or 770 Hydraulic pump

Posted by Dave Brown on April 18, 2001 at 13:49:26: IP Address: 206.133.170.137 I have what I believe is an Oliver 770, at least that's what the decal says. I need to get a Hydraulic Pump seal and need to know if the pump is for a 770 or 70. The levers to raise the PTO are on the side and from the 770 pictures I've seen, the 770 had them on the top. Thanks!