"Ask The Oliver Mechanic" - April, 2010 Archives


crankshaft

IP: 166.216.130.80 Posted on April 29, 2010 at 10:32:06 AM by austin white

my 1955 spun a rod on the number 3 cylinder. i measured the the spun journal. it measures 2.37. my manual says specs are 2.43. is there any way i can have it reground and put in oversized bearings or is it junk.

Re(1): crankshaft

IP: 75.104.182.36 Posted on April 29, 2010 at 09:18:35 PM by Larry Harsin

You'll have to pull the crank out and have it inspected. Your machinist at your local automotive shop will be able to analyze what has to be done. Undersize bearings are available for this crank. Larry


1650 D torque specs

IP: 96.63.34.98 Posted on April 27, 2010 at 07:24:44 PM by don

I have a 1650 D 283 wakashaw that I'm putting a used block in. I'm looking for head bolt, main and rod brg. torque, also what rocker arm clearance is. Thanks

Re(1): 1650 D torque specs

IP: 75.104.182.36 Posted on April 28, 2010 at 10:08:01 PM by Larry Harsin

Head bolts are 130 ft. lbs. Mains are 125 ft. lbs. Rod bolt torque is 45 ft. lbs. Rocker Arms is .012 intake .020 exhaust. Larry


HYDRAULIC LEVERS

IP: 66.103.229.12 Posted on April 27, 2010 at 06:52:42 AM by KENNY ZEE

I HAVE A SUPER 88 TRACTOR FOR SALE AND BOTH HYD. LEVERS ARE BROKEN AND WAS WONDERING IF THIS IS A HARD FIX AND ARE PARTS AVAILABLE? IS 1200 TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR THIS TRACTOR?

Re(1): HYDRAULIC LEVERS

IP: 75.104.182.36 Posted on April 28, 2010 at 10:05:30 PM by Larry Harsin

I have the replacement levers. You will probably need new boots, too. Email me or Call me. 712-362-2966. If the tractor is decent and runs good, that is a bargin and under market price in my area. Larry


1800 grommets

IP: 97.112.97.33 Posted on April 25, 2010 at 01:30:39 PM by scott

do you know were I can buy the grommet on the hood for the gas filler for a 1800

Re(1): 1800 grommets

IP: 75.104.169.47 Posted on April 26, 2010 at 05:44:14 AM by Larry Harsin

Call Korves Oliver 618-939-6681. Larry


1755 vibration

IP: 71.60.32.245 Posted on April 25, 2010 at 10:48:24 AM by joe

My 1755 diesel has a vibration in the drive line, been slowly getting worse over the past few years. Changed the coupling chain but didn't seem to make much difference. Worst vibration is in over, or when at road speeds (starts when a load is applied, small hill, etc). The O/U sprocket has some play could that be the cause? What's the best way to see if the sprockets are lined up properly? Thanks

Re(1): 1755 vibration

IP: 75.104.169.47 Posted on April 26, 2010 at 05:43:03 AM by Larry Harsin

The best way is by visually observing what is happening. You can put a jack bolt in to help raise the hydraul, if it is sagging. Larry

Re(2): 1755 vibration

IP: 71.60.32.245 Posted on April 26, 2010 at 11:46:16 AM by Joe

I guess I'm just not looking right, should I pull the chain for the best view of sprocket alignment? Or checking w/the chain on ok?

Re(3): 1755 vibration

IP: 75.104.169.47 Posted on April 26, 2010 at 06:31:46 PM by Larry Harsin

Use your own judgement, but if you have to, take the chain off and see how it looks. Larry


Super 55 lights.

IP: 130.76.32.167 Posted on April 21, 2010 at 00:27:08 AM by Patrick Flohe

My Super 55 is missing the light housings/wiring for all head & tail lamps. Does anyone have a set of brackets, or brackets with lamps? I want it to be as close to original as possible. Is the rear-facing combination light and tail light still available? How about a toolbox lid for the left foot rest?

Re(1): Super 55 lights.

IP: 75.105.44.123 Posted on April 21, 2010 at 08:35:18 PM by Larry Harsin

You can get all of these things from Korves Oliver 618-939-6681. Larry


1600 generator

IP: 66.66.234.131 Posted on April 19, 2010 at 06:23:10 PM by shad

I was running my 1600 gas tonight and when I shut it off the amp light stayed on dim I thought this wasn't good so I disconected the battery there was some smoke coming from the generator an it was hot I put a new voltage regulator on last year when I rewired the tractor all has been fine since about 100hrs any suggestions would be appreciated

Re(1): 1600 generator

IP: 75.105.44.123 Posted on April 20, 2010 at 05:32:30 PM by Larry Harsin

I think I would take the generator and the regulator to a repair shop and have them both checked out. There is something going on. Does the engine wiring harness look like it is in good condition? If not, I'd get a new one from Korves Oliver 618-939-6681. Larry


More power from oliver super 88

IP: 65.121.3.42 Posted on April 19, 2010 at 01:59:18 PM by Jesse Rehbein

I have an Oliver super 88 gas and Im wondering if there is any other engine that I can swap into it for more power, preferably a diesel. I was told that the bolt pattern was the same as a chevy but I wanted to check before pulling the motor. Any advise is greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.

Re(1): More power from oliver super 88

IP: 75.105.44.123 Posted on April 20, 2010 at 05:21:16 PM by Larry Harsin

You can put a 310 gas or diesel in it. That is what a 1750 or a 1755 has. I have a 1750 diesel engine here. 712-362-2966 Larry


Super 55 Miss-fire

IP: 72.152.61.122 Posted on April 18, 2010 at 06:03:00 AM by charles rutland

Mr Harsin. this tractor started skipping on 2 &4 cylinder I put in new points,plugs,with same results. I have switched carburator,that did not help.I had head reworked,same results,except now 3&4 won:t fire.I have changed dist. cap & plugs & wires tractor does not use oil in execess. What is your suggestions? thanks, RUTLAND

Re(1): Super 55 Miss-fire

IP: 130.76.32.23 Posted on April 18, 2010 at 06:15:15 PM by Patrick Flohe

Have you had the distributer out? If you had the distributer out of the engine, you may have put it in wrong, firing on the wrong cylinders. If that isn't the case, you may well have a bad distributer... I had that problem once. I don't think carburetor would have anything to do with what you have going on there, and you've already changed it.....

Re(2): Super 55 Miss-fire

IP: 75.105.44.123 Posted on April 20, 2010 at 05:29:10 PM by Larry Harsin

The firing order on that engine is: 1,2,4,3. Is that the order you used when you replaced it? Larry

Re(3): Super 55 Miss-fire

IP: 72.152.82.195 Posted on April 23, 2010 at 04:07:43 PM by charles rutland

Mr.Harsin The trouble was the intake manifold, I had it machined and that solved the problem. thanks for answering. RUTLAND


Super 55 HYD FLUID

IP: 130.76.32.23 Posted on April 17, 2010 at 08:22:03 PM by Patrick Flohe

What is the hydraulic fluid capacity on Super 55? I was going to pick some up before I get home, & don't know how much it holds. Also, where does it drain out?

Re(1): Super 55 HYD FLUID

IP: 75.105.44.123 Posted on April 20, 2010 at 05:25:41 PM by Larry Harsin

A 2.5 gal. jug of med. non-foaming hydraulic oil will be enough. There is a little plug on the side of the unit that you remove. Then, start the engine and pump it out. If it has a remote valve, start the engine and pump it out there. This is explained in the Operator's Manual. You can get one from the museum in Charles City IA. 641-228-1099. Larry


Injection pump super 88

IP: 71.7.24.143 Posted on April 14, 2010 at 08:14:23 PM by chad

I had the tractor overhauled, but did nothing to the injection pump. When the tractor is running it runs great. Could the pump make it hard to start if it was weak. The pump is a American Bosh. Thanks Larry

Re(1): Injection pump super 88

IP: 75.104.168.170 Posted on April 15, 2010 at 06:42:43 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes. If the injection head is weak, it could make it hard to start. Please give me a call so we can talk about this. 712-362-2966 Larry


880 power booster

IP: 131.137.245.207 Posted on April 14, 2010 at 06:52:59 AM by Don

Had the engine out and removed the 3 sets of bolts and shims in the power booster, as explained in the manual. I put the power booster back together, but now it does not go far enough over center to stay (it just pops back) and also the lever goes all the way down to the foot clutch when back. What did I do wrong? Also, if I push the foot clutch down all the way this power booster clutch continues turning. Should it continue turning or should it stop when the clutch is pressed down? Help please and thank you. Don.

Re(2): 880 power booster

IP: 75.104.168.170 Posted on April 14, 2010 at 01:09:06 PM by Larry Harsin

You must have put something together wrong. There are many things and I just can't guess. You'll have to check out each step and see what isn't right. Larry


1650 D clutch change

IP: 72.160.246.247 Posted on April 13, 2010 at 07:01:09 PM by Jack

how does one go about changing out a clutch in a 1650 D? is there a link i could view the hole thing and how to take out. Jack

Re(1): 1650 D clutch change

IP: 75.104.168.170 Posted on April 13, 2010 at 09:35:58 PM by Larry Harsin

If it has a hydro-power or a hydraul, the engine with the drive unit, has to be removed from the tractor before you can change the clutch. Larry


Super 88 diesel

IP: 71.7.24.132 Posted on April 13, 2010 at 09:04:24 AM by chad

Larry thanks for your help, but I have one more question for you, what do you think about starting fluid? When I use it I use very little. I have heard that if you dont use very much it wont hurt anything what do you think? Thank you.

Re(1): Super 88 diesel

IP: 75.104.168.170 Posted on April 13, 2010 at 09:33:59 PM by Larry Harsin

I agree with that. If it is used correctly, it won't hurt a thing. Larry

Super 88 diesel

IP: 71.7.24.154 Posted on April 12, 2010 at 06:15:46 PM by Chad

My tractor has been completely overhauled,but is really hard to start. When you turn it over it starts to smoke, but just turns over and over. If you shoot a little starting fluid in it, it will start I don't like using starting fluid, any ideas? thanks for your help.

Re(1): Super 88 diesel

IP: 75.104.168.170 Posted on April 13, 2010 at 05:09:23 AM by Larry Harsin

Some of the early S88 diesels were hard starters. The part number on the cylinder head was K180G. They came with a different design after this with cylinder head part number 100042A. The change was a smaller combustion chamber which caused more compression and more temperature for starting. If your tractor has the later design head, it may be due to the valve depth in the head. Installation of new seats will help on this. The intakes should be as near flush with the surface of the head as possible. Larry


Oliver Super55 Trans Leaks

IP: 69.19.14.29 Posted on April 11, 2010 at 05:06:59 PM by Patrick Flohe

I bought my Super 55 last year ( so far, I only use it for mowing with a brush hog ), and am very happy with it, but have a question and a problem... First, the seller changed all of the fluids before I picked it up, (but not before I looked at and drove it) and trans fluid now smelled like gear oil.... Is this correct? The reason for the change was at my request, as there appeared to have been some water in the trans fluid, and he had a shop where he could do this easily. Everything worked well, though it was so full prior to the change, that it was running out when I pulled the trans dipstick. There are two caps on the case, and only the aft one by the shifter has a dipstick on it. What is the forward one for? Now the problem: The last two times I used the tractor last summer/fall, I noticed a gear oil smell, and found minor leaks from PTO shaft, and seals around the case, like at the fwd end where it mates with engine, on sides like below the I.D. plate. The last time it was worse, coming out of even threaded holes in the side of the case fwd of brake pedals. It runs and bubbles out of these holes as the tractor warms up, and it's fluid level is now down to the "add" mark. I have to wonder if fluid was incompatible with seals? This problem didn't show up until the fall, and is much worse now. I checked the two breathers, as the seller said to check for blockage like mud dawber wasps, etc, and didn't find much..... The upper one by the seat mount was clear, but the lower one on the differential was a little plugged, though the holes cleared easily. -I can't see how that minor blockage could actually allow pressure to build to that point, where it's coming out of everywhere. The thing I don't like about the breathers is that the bushing on the bolt isn't long enough to allow a space for air to move in and out between the spacer and the cap. Is this wrong? What do I do next? Thanks for your help! Patrick Flohe

Re(1): Oliver Super55 Trans Leaks

IP: 75.104.190.164 Posted on April 12, 2010 at 05:56:00 AM by Larry Harsin

The forward cap is for transmission grease. The one with the dipstick is for the hydraulic oil. I would question if you are using the proper fluids in the proper places. The transmission uses 80-90 transmission oil. It holds approx. 5 gal. There are 3 drains. The check plug is at the rear of the tractor, upper right of the PTO. Hydraulic uses med. non-foaming hydraulic oil where the dip stick is. The breather should be cleaned and put back on - not too tightly. I'd check these items out and go from there. Larry

Re(2): Oliver Super55 Trans Leaks

IP: 66.82.9.54 Posted on April 12, 2010 at 10:05:10 AM by Patrick

Thanks Larry, I'll check it out. The breathers were both on pretty tightly when I first pulled them to check them, and I thought that probably wasn't right, so I just snugged them when putting back on. I never did pull the check plug yet. I will do that before leaving today, as I won't be back again to check it further until at least next weekend. Thanks again. Patrick

Re(3): Oliver Super55 Trans Leaks

IP: 75.104.190.164 Posted on April 12, 2010 at 03:20:30 PM by Larry Harsin

Yes. Leave those breathers a bit loose so that they can breathe. Larry


oliver 1750

IP: 76.252.20.172 Posted on April 10, 2010 at 06:55:09 PM by tom

HAVE A FLUID LEAK IN STEARING BOX OF 1750 WIDE FRONT. CHECKED ALL THE HOSES AND NO LEAKS THERE. IT APPEARS TO BE DRIPING AROUND LARGE NUT THAT HOLDS THE STEERING ARMS. IS THERE A REBUILD KIT FOR THIS OR SIMPLE O-RINGS? OR SHOULD I LOOK FOR A NEW STEERING BOX OR LET IT LEAK? THANKS

Re(1): oliver 1750

IP: 75.104.190.164 Posted on April 12, 2010 at 05:49:38 AM by Larry Harsin

It's probably a quad ring in the bottom of the steering cylinder. The parts to repair it will be less than $10 from AGCO. I normally replace these by jacking the tractor up and setting the main frame on stands. Then, using a chain hoist, lower the front end assembly down from the tractor. Then, remove the lid from the steering cylinder, pushing the sector up, and replacing the quad ring. If it does not leak a lot of oil, I wouldn't be in a big hurry to change it. Larry


1955 Shifting

IP: 66.252.85.236 Posted on April 9, 2010 at 06:59:40 PM by Austin White

My 1955 doesn't have 4th or 6th gear. I took the cover off of the tranny and the gear that control's 4th and 6th has no teeth on it. whats the best way to get it apart so i can change the gear?

Re(1): 1955 Shifting

IP: 96.18.17.165 Posted on April 10, 2010 at 07:20:03 PM by MIKE

I WOULD USE WRENCHES,SOCKETS,PRY BARS AND A GOOD MANUAL !!!!

Re(2): 1955 Shifting

IP: 75.104.190.164 Posted on April 12, 2010 at 05:45:49 AM by Larry Harsin

You need to get a Service Manual from the Museum in Charles City IA. 641-228-1099. This is a BIG, BIG job. If you are not mechanically inclined, you should get a good mechanic to do this job. If needed, I do have a 1955 transmission assembly for sale at a reasonable figure. 712-362-2966 Larry


Oliver 1600

IP: 75.221.203.193 Posted on April 8, 2010 at 06:14:35 AM by Devin

Hi my 1600 was low on hydraulic fluid so I filled it to the brim should I drain a little?

Re(1): Oliver 1600

IP: 75.104.182.48 Posted on April 8, 2010 at 06:17:35 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes, get it down where it is supposed to be. It will tell you on the dipstick. Larry


Leak

IP: 99.194.23.25 Posted on April 7, 2010 at 08:07:52 PM by Lucas cates

I have an injector leak on my super 88 diesel. Oil is comeing out of where the trottle rod goes into the injector

Re(1): Leak

IP: 75.104.182.48 Posted on April 8, 2010 at 06:16:22 AM by Larry Harsin

You better fix it!! It will be a good rainy day job when you are not in the field. Give me a call some evening when you aren't busy and we will talk about it. 712-362-2966 Larry


880 bull gear bearing

IP: 216.248.68.198 Posted on April 7, 2010 at 06:13:19 PM by Tyler Stigge

I have a 59 880. The left side rear wheel seems to want to seize momentarilly when I change directions from reverse to forward. It acts like the break grabs and quickly lets go. This is accompanied by a metallic whine/grind noise. It was just clicking for a while, but seems to have gotten worse. I have checked the tension on the hub bolts. They are as tight as a 3/4 drive wrench will get them. I have checked the outer drive axle bearings. They look good (no obvious damage). Looking in the manual I can only see one more bearing that it could be, and that is the Bull gear side bearing on the final drive. Am I missing something? Thank you for your help. If you are going to Mt Pleasant, I may see you there.

Re(1): 880 bull gear bearing

IP: 75.104.182.48 Posted on April 8, 2010 at 06:13:30 AM by Larry Harsin

It could very well be an inner axle bearing. We'll be in Mt. Pleasant. Larry


Wrist pin bushing

IP: 69.9.31.23 Posted on April 6, 2010 at 07:07:03 PM by John Montgomery

Hello, I am rebuilding a Super 55 engine and one of the wrist pin bushings was bad. I pressed out the old split bushing while I was waiting for new parts. Now I have the new bushings and looked for information on installing them and got spooked. Will the new bushings need to be reamed to size? Am I best off letting a machine shop do this part? Thank you very much for your time. John

Re(1): Wrist pin bushing

IP: 75.104.183.32 Posted on April 6, 2010 at 10:15:37 PM by Larry Harsin

Yes, it will have to be reamed by a machine shop. Larry


1650 distributor

IP: 72.198.216.18 Posted on April 6, 2010 at 03:05:45 PM by Larry K

I am working on a 1650 gas with a distributor that is not a Delco. There is no identification plate. It has a vacuum advance. We want to convert it to electronic ignition. 1. Can you identify the brand of distributor? 2. Can this unit be converted to electronic ignition?

Re(1): 1650 distributor

IP: 4.248.220.70 Posted on April 6, 2010 at 04:10:20 PM by Larry from MD

Its a HOLLY they don't make them anymore. No can not be made electronic, or at least should not. If you want that buy a new mallory.

Re(2): 1650 distributor

IP: 75.104.188.15 Posted on April 16, 2010 at 11:55:59 AM by Larry Harsin

It is probably a Holly, which isn't made anymore, as Larry from MD told you. Contact T.H.E. Co. in Mt. Pleasant IA 800-634-4885. www.the-co.com Perhaps they can fix you up with an electronic starter. Larry


2-135

IP: 67.237.40.45 Posted on April 5, 2010 at 06:27:06 PM by anthony thomas

I have a 2-135 white the trans fluid light is flashing what does this mean and how do i correct it. Thanks.

Re(1): 2-135

IP: 75.104.183.32 Posted on April 6, 2010 at 06:35:21 AM by Larry Harsin

I don't have a White 2-135, so I don't know, Have you read your Operator's Manual? It should tell you. Call your the dealer where you bought the tractor. Larry

Re(2): 2-135

IP: 4.248.222.17 Posted on April 6, 2010 at 10:18:49 AM by Larry from MD

The trans light comes on when the pressure in the lube circuit is too low. It can be a bad senser or the pump is getting weak or the fluid has too much lighter fluid leaked into it. On one of mine the light started coming on 10 years ago when its hot outside. There seems to be flow to keep going.

Re(3): 2-135

IP: 67.237.40.45 Posted on April 7, 2010 at 06:33:40 PM by anthony

I also had fluid coming out the breather and the shaft where gear shift goes into side of trany I think it might be to full of oil. Got new filter will change and see.

Re(4): 2-135

IP: 4.248.221.183 Posted on April 8, 2010 at 01:44:26 PM by Larry from MD

So your gear oil is thinned by all the hydraulic running into it. Most likely the pto shift is leaking the oil in. You need to fix or it will happen again. If not useing the pto plug the oil line going to it and use the tractor. If no oil shows up in the rear thats where the leak is.


Load

IP: 99.194.23.25 Posted on April 3, 2010 at 08:58:30 PM by Lucas cates

Larry I have a 1956 oliver super 88 diesel. If you put it under a load it will not bog down. Not that i want it to but i just want to know why

Re(1): Load

IP: 75.104.169.177 Posted on April 5, 2010 at 05:26:09 AM by Larry Harsin

Because it is an Oliver and working like it is supposed to. Larry


1955 psi

IP: 65.214.176.195 Posted on April 2, 2010 at 11:36:43 AM by Aaron

I have sunsource hydraulics rebuilding my pvb15 hydraulic pump on my oliver 1955 and they want to know what to set the pressure at and I cant find the spec anywhere on internet.

Re(1): 1955 psi

IP: 75.104.183.109 Posted on April 2, 2010 at 07:14:01 PM by Larry Harsin

It is around 2100. Larry


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