"Ask The Oliver Mechanic" - April, 2016 Archives


770 Oil Leakage Problem

IP: 173.26.196.162 Posted on April 30, 2016 at 05:03:45 PM by Ed Brown

Larry, I have a 1954 Oliver 770, that is loosing oil down into the tranny. I know the hyd. pump seal is out, do you repair pumps if I sent it to you, and can you advise me of the cost? I had a local dealer replace it about 5 years ago, started leaking about 1 year ago, now looses fluid fast. Thank you, Ed Brown

Re(1): Oil Leakage Problem

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on May 1, 2016 at 01:08:34 PM by Larry Harsin

It will be $150 for the seals and bearings plus labor. You can send it to me and I'll repair it for you. Larry Harsin, 3426 170th St. Estherville, IA 51334. Larry


1650 Gas

IP: 66.230.245.170 Posted on April 28, 2016 at 05:55:44 PM by Arnie

I need to know the piston ring end gap for a 1650 gas. Thanks Arnie

Re(1): 1650 Gas

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on May 1, 2016 at 01:04:56 PM by Larry Harsin

It is approx. .010. Larry


Need 550 oil pan, will others interchange????

IP: 204.116.143.118 Posted on April 27, 2016 at 09:05:02 PM by Cody

I need an oil pan for a gas 550? Any ideas where to find, will other models interchange etc.... Thanks

Re(1): Need 550 oil pan, will others interchange????

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on May 1, 2016 at 12:59:57 PM by Larry Harsin

I don't have one. One from a 66 will work. Check with Kent Gordon in Palestine TX. 903-729-8349. Larry


1655 hydraulics

IP: 184.61.194.167 Posted on April 27, 2016 at 09:37:16 AM by Travis

Hi Larry, I have a 1655 diesel that I want to put an auxiliary belt drive hydraulic pump off the front of the engine. What I'm wondering is, 1) am I OK with belt driven or should I run a shaft off the front of the crank and then use a love joy or such to couple up the pump. and 2) can I tap into the hydraulic reservoir that is already on the tractor or do I need a separate reservoir and filter system. If I can use the tractor hydraulic reservoir, where would I tap into it. Thanks so much.

Re(1): 1655 hydraulics

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on May 1, 2016 at 12:57:13 PM by Larry Harsin

I would think the best would be to use a shaft off the front of the engine. You need a separate system. I wouldn't tap into the one for the tractor. Larry


2-88 transmission

IP: 68.235.74.2 Posted on April 26, 2016 at 12:30:13 PM by bernie uran

I own a White Field Boss fwa(2-88) tractor which has the dual range transmission along with the Over,Under.direct as well. It has about 6000hours on it and has the right hand console shift linkage as opposed to the floor shift lever on my 2-105. The tractor transmission jumps out of 5th gear, and a friend tells me that it is a problem inside the transmission case,as adjusting the external linkage does not cure the problem. I have a cab on the tractor,but it appears that the transmission cover may be removable without taking off the cab. Have you any suggestions as to what may be affecting 5th and possibly 2nd gear? Is it possible to remove a shift fork without splitting the tractor? I thank you in advance for any help which you may give me. Sincerely, Bernie Uran

Re(1): 2-88 transmission

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 27, 2016 at 07:55:22 AM by Larry Harsin

I am not comfortable answering questions about the White tractors. They came on the scene after I left Oliver and I haven't worked on them much. Larry


Oliver 88 air breather

IP: 69.80.117.49 Posted on April 24, 2016 at 08:32:24 PM by Greg M

I am changing the oil in my oil bath air breather on diesel Oliver 88. Manual says to use same oil as in crankcase. Would you agree with that or use a lighter grade like 5W-30? I am thinking a lighter grade.

Re(1): Oliver 88 air breather

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 25, 2016 at 07:50:26 AM by Larry Harsin

It's fine to use what the book says or you can use the lighter oil. Either works. Larry


1650 info

IP: 64.114.105.239 Posted on April 23, 2016 at 10:23:25 PM by Shawn

hi larry, can you tell me anything about what engine i do have in my cockshutt 1650.(think of doing a rebuild at some point....and not sure of best place to buy parts or kit from in canada, i reside in northern bc, canada) #'s on tag infront of gear shift 161578468 and 165 4204 the cylinder head #221 02 Engine #'s above starter top to bottom
221 320
158544A
1214
injector pump (roosa master) #'s
6291dh200
780514

Re(1): 1650 info

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 24, 2016 at 08:56:58 AM by Larry Harsin

I would call Maibach Tractor, 800-808-9934 for sleeves and pistons. You should use the regular Waukesha parts for that diesel engine. They will be more expensive, but I highly recommend that you use genuine Waukesha parts. Larry


Oliver super 88 clutch

IP: 184.61.194.167 Posted on April 23, 2016 at 07:12:42 PM by Travis

Hi Larry, I'm asking this question for my Grandpa. He has always used olivers for many years and he likes the clutch setup on his 880 much better then the super 88. He says that because of the way the linkages are set up the clutch is much easier to push on his 880. He is wondering if it is possible to put a clutch on a super 88 from an 880. Would the bell housing and all of it bolt up or not. If not would it be able to be reto fitted some other way. He says that the frame of the tractors are the same as near as he can tell, but wasn't sure if the clutch housing and such matched as well. Thanks in advance for any help.

S88 clutch

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 24, 2016 at 08:49:53 AM by Larry Harsin

If it is a late 77 or 88, like a '57 or '58, it is easy to do. I think I might have the parts if you need them. If it is older than that, you can still do it, but it would be more involved. Larry 712-362-2966


1755 batteries

IP: 72.94.145.157 Posted on April 22, 2016 at 11:16:37 AM by Terry

Hi Larry, thanks in advance for your advice. What are your thoughts on replacing my two six volt group 3eh batteries with one 12 volt group 31 battery on my 1755 diesel tractor?

Re(1): 1755 batteries

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 23, 2016 at 08:25:44 AM by Larry Harsin

If you plan to use it in the winter, you should leave it the way it is. If you aren't going to use it in the winter, you can use it the way you want. Larry


880 manifold torque

IP: 173.24.191.39 Posted on April 20, 2016 at 09:24:25 PM by cal harms

I'm putting new copper manifold gaskets on an 880. Do I torque to a certain spec or how far do I tighten? Thanks,Cal

Re(1): 880 manifold torque

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 21, 2016 at 07:54:48 AM by Larry Harsin

Tighten gradually and don't exceed 30 lbs. Larry


Oliver 1850

IP: 208.90.138.165 Posted on April 19, 2016 at 12:42:39 PM by Brian

We have a 1850 with a bad rear. I want to know will a 1800 rear bolt right in place with no issues?

Re(1): oliver 1850

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 21, 2016 at 07:52:50 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes, it will. Larry


Power Beyond on Oliver 1650

IP: 73.176.210.55 Posted on April 16, 2016 at 05:41:57 PM by Todd

I am wanting to run a 2 spoil valve on my 1650 for a loader. I am wanting to confirm that I just need to take the 1/2 plugs out and add pipe extensions and hook the hoses to the valve. Are there any furthur adjustments that need to be made to run the power beyond? Thank you

Re(1): Power Beyond on Oliver 1650

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 21, 2016 at 07:50:40 AM by Larry Harsin

You have to install a 3/8 socket head pipe plug in that passage that points forward. Larry


Carb for Oliver 66

IP: 207.161.61.80 Posted on April 15, 2016 at 12:54:25 PM by Mark Ryback

I have an Oliver 66 Standard and I am looking for a carb. It is a Marvel Schebler now but is there a better aftermarket carb for this tractor. The tractor is used regularly throughout the year for various tasks. Thank you, Mark

Re(1): Carb for Oliver 66

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 16, 2016 at 07:50:07 AM by Larry Harsin

Check with Valu-Bilt 888-828-3276. Larry


Removing 3 flange roosa master

IP: 64.203.120.3 Posted on April 14, 2016 at 11:24:16 PM by brad machado

I have an Oliver 1650. I want to have Roosa master pump rebuilt. My problem is removing the pump. I can't get a wrench on the inside nut next to block. This is a 3 flange/bolt pump. Any tips?

Re(1): Removing 3 flange roosa master

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 16, 2016 at 07:47:36 AM by Larry Harsin

I have a special wrench that is U shaped with a thin box end on it. You can modify one of your wrenches to do this. Or you can buy a wrench from Snap-on or one of the tool companies. Larry


Oliver 2055

IP: 66.222.55.227 Posted on April 14, 2016 at 12:15:53 PM by Jeff Bratz

The 2055 had the over under transmission. I understand there was an update to the amplitorq in the last years. In particular the metal wear plates in the torque itself. My parts manual calls for three .080 metal plates. But I have been told there was an update that used one .080 plate and two .060 plates. Can anyone help out with this? Thank you in advance.

Re(1): Oliver 2055

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 16, 2016 at 07:44:13 AM by Larry Harsin

The 2055 was built by Minneapolis Moline. I don't have any info on it. Larry

Oliver 2055

IP: 66.222.55.227 Posted on April 14, 2016 at 12:15:53 PM by Jeff Bratz

The 2055 had the over under transmission. I understand there was an update to the amplitorq in the last years. In particular the metal wear plates in the torq itself. My parts manual calls for three .080 metal plates. But I have been told there was an update that used one .080 plate and two .060 plates. Can anyone help out with this? Thank you in advance.

Re(1): Oliver 2055

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 16, 2016 at 07:44:13 AM by Larry Harsin

The 2055 was built by Minneapolis Moline. I don't have any info on the. Larry


1800, 1950t engine

IP: 184.21.111.122 Posted on April 12, 2016 at 08:15:49 PM by Lance Bartling

I have an 1800 with a bad motor in it, I bought a used (said to be good) 1950T motor to swap in it. When rolling the flywheel over by hand, the motor will stop, then will stop about 300 degrees the other way so I am convinced there is a muddobbers nest or something on top of a piston. Should I; Pull the head to see? if so Im having a hard time finding a head gasket under 200 dollars, and that just seems unreal to me. Or 2, Remove the injectors? I have tried some but did not want to break the bodies off in the head, wasnt sure if a would be able to find those either. Both the motor and tractor have been sitting for probably 4 years so its not going to be an easy project. Lance

Re(1): 1800, 1950t engine

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 14, 2016 at 07:00:15 AM by Larry Harsin

I would probably remove the head. Larry


Oliver 70 Charging

IP: 72.94.11.128 Posted on April 12, 2016 at 08:03:41 PM by Chris

Hello. I have a 1938 Oliver 70 Row Crop with the older style Hart Parr engine (distributor and charging system on the same side). It currently does not charge. How can I check the system for possible issues? I have little to no electrical experience with cut out relays such as the one on the generator. Any help is highly appreciated. -Chris

Re(1): Oliver 70 Charging

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 14, 2016 at 06:58:48 AM by Larry Harsin

Use a jumper wire and ground the field on the generator and then it should charge. If that doesn't work, take it to a generator shop and have them check it. Larry


770 Wide Front Ends

IP: 24.196.34.48 Posted on April 11, 2016 at 03:12:18 PM by Craig

We have a 1961 770 equipped w/factory power stearing and would like to swap the Swartz wide front with a factory wide front from a 1964 770 w/o power stearing. What issues might we encounter? Thanks, Craig

Re(1): 770 Wide Front Ends

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 11, 2016 at 10:00:47 PM by Larry Harsin

It should be fairly easy to do. It is a matter of unbolting the front axle assembly and putting it on the other tractor. Larry

Re(2): 770 Wide Front Ends

IP: 24.196.34.48 Posted on April 12, 2016 at 12:52:37 PM by Craig

Thanks, I was hoping that was the answer. Regards


1964 White Oliver 1600 Industrial Backhoe

IP: 73.150.129.113 Posted on April 11, 2016 at 07:37:09 AM by Jesse Brandimarto

Could anyone tell me where I might find a hydraulic Boom cylinder repacking kit for my 1964 White Oliver 1600 Backhoe. Every site I go to has nothing but the hyd. pump. I have gone to two hydraulic shop and all they tell me to do is bring it in so they can work on it, because they don't know what v pack will work until its apart. I don't want to take it apart until I find a kit because it is still operational for the most part. Is there a kit from another backhoe that might work? The original serial # for the Cylinder is 197 289-AS, the original # for the kit was 197 288-AS.

Re(1): 1964 White Oliver 1600 Industrial Backhoe

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 11, 2016 at 07:55:42 AM by Larry Harsin

You will either have take that number to AGCO and get the part or take it apart an have someone try to match it up. That is all there is to it. Larry

Re(2): 1964 White Oliver 1600 Industrial Backhoe

IP: 73.150.129.113 Posted on April 11, 2016 at 09:01:27 AM by Jesse

Thank you, Mr. Harsin. Also, there is a problem in the powersteering. Maybe you can help me diagnose the problem faster. Tractor will turn left, but will not turn back right. I have to put the loader all the way down to get the front tires up off the ground, then shut the machine off, steer where i want it the go, than start it back up. Sometimes after it warms up it will work right for awhile, but it is happening more and more frequently. I just bought the backhoe and am new to Oliver. Thank you in advance. Jesse

Re(3): 1964 White Oliver 1600 Industrial Backhoe

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 11, 2016 at 09:58:36 PM by Larry Harsin

Probably something is broken in the power steering or the hydra-motor. It's the piece under the steering wheel. Larry


Oliver 1650 hydraulic chatter

IP: 208.88.255.204 Posted on April 9, 2016 at 12:29:00 PM by Todd

I have a Oliver 1650 gas tractor. Unless I keep the tractor revved up the hydraulic's jerk when lowering implenments. It only does it while lowering and never when lifting. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Re(1): Oliver 1650 hydraulic chatter

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 11, 2016 at 07:52:29 AM by Larry Harsin

This is a common thing with 1650's. There are restrictors to help with this problem. It is covered in your Operator's Manual. Larry


880 fuel pressure

IP: 67.3.10.218 Posted on April 8, 2016 at 03:31:08 PM by HONGISTO IMPLEMENT

We are still having problems getting this 880 to run. The injector pump has been rebuild, we have changed the lift pump twice. But the replacement lift pumps don't look the same as the old one that you can see has check valves in it. What should the pressure be coming out of the lift pump. we have none. Do the new pumps not have check valves in them? And if so can you still repair the old one? it was also leaking fuel into the crankcase. I thank you for your time. Have a great day.

Re(1): 880 fuel pressure

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 9, 2016 at 08:47:53 AM by Larry Harsin

The old pumps had check valves in them. You can get repair kits for the pumps from Korves Oliver. 618-939-6681. There will be a new diaphram and new check valves with the repair kit. As far as pressure is concerned, I open the line on the injection head on the left side of the tractor. Then, turn the engine with the starter. If fuel squirts out, I assume it is o.k.


crankshaft oil clearance

IP: 66.230.245.170 Posted on April 5, 2016 at 01:49:16 PM by Arnie

Am going thru a 1650 gas and had the crank reground. New bearings are on the way. I need to oil clearance on the rods and mains. Thanks..Arnie

Re(1): crankshaft oil clearance

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 6, 2016 at 08:26:07 AM by Larry Harsin

.001 to .003.5 -- Larry

Re(2): crankshaft oil clearance

IP: 66.230.245.170 Posted on April 6, 2016 at 06:08:41 PM by Arnie

Is that the rods or mains? Arnie

Re(3): crankshaft oil clearance

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 7, 2016 at 07:57:17 AM by Larry Harsin

That is for both. Larry


1800 oliver wide front end

IP: 174.111.48.1 Posted on April 5, 2016 at 10:44:28 AM by Adam Meylor

will a oliver 1755 wide front end fit a 1800 oliver?

Re(1): 1800 oliver wide front end

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 6, 2016 at 08:22:18 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes, it will. Larry


1850 oil pan

IP: 166.181.83.114 Posted on April 3, 2016 at 08:14:38 PM by nate

Found a crack in my oil pan on my 1850 diesel. It is on the bottom of the oil drain just a small cracked but it can be seen in the threads for the oil plug and leaks slowly. Can it be fixed and any good ideas on where to have it fixed. Would think the aluminum would need to be welded and threads recut. Located in NCIA.

Re(1): 1850 oil pan

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 4, 2016 at 07:38:20 AM by Larry Harsin

I would remove it and take it to someone that can repair aluminum (weld). Over-tightening tends to cause that problem. Replacements of those are very hard to find. You probably have someone local to you, but here, we have C&G Mfg. in Estherville, 712-362-3128 and in Terril Fairchild Mfg. 712-853-6118. Larry


seat

IP: 162.213.225.35 Posted on April 3, 2016 at 07:54:31 PM by Jack

my 1365 seat bottoms out, no spring to it. is it repairable or replace only. the screw does nothing. Thanks , Dad and I love our Olivers!

Re(1): seat IP: 184.21.143.147

Posted on April 4, 2016 at 07:27:17 AM by Larry Harsin

Check with Rick's Ag Parts about this. info@ricksagparts.com or 330-466-2164. Larry

Re(2): seat

IP: 162.213.225.35 Posted on April 5, 2016 at 08:20:52 PM by jack

got it apart a decided to add 3/8 inch of flat washers. that gave me some cush for my rear. thanks


Cockshutt 1650 rear drawbar bolts

IP: 64.114.105.239 Posted on April 3, 2016 at 11:22:40 AM by Shawn

I have a cockshutt 1650 wheat land version and I'm doing some upkeep on it, and the rear drawbar support that holds the drawbar up, I cannot torque the 8 3/4" bolts up properly. One was broken which I extracted with success. The right side seemed ok, but the left side bolt holes are stripped. Not sure if Helicoil is best to repair or not. Thoughts??? Thanks

Re(1): Cockshutt 1650 rear drawbar bolts

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 4, 2016 at 07:25:11 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes. The helicoil would be a good option. Larry


Oliver 1750 hydraulic problems

IP: 66.87.75.172 Posted on April 3, 2016 at 11:02:23 AM by Joshua Drew

Hello Larry, first off thank you for your time and dedication to these tractors. I have used your page many times for help and guidance. I have a very specific problem and have looked through the posts and found similar problems but nothing the same. I have a Oliver 1750 with a gas Waukesha 283. Serial number 185 595-42. It has a loader hooked up to the rear remotes. While sitting on the tractor, the remote farthest to the right has always bleed off slowly when under a load only. It controls the tilt on the bucket. It's never been bad enough to bother me, but now that I have a heavy blade hooked to the 3 point it bleeds off really fast. If I have the blade raised off the ground I can literally watch the bucket bleed off and tilt down within about 30 seconds. I have checked all the hoses and fittings first, no leaks. Seems odd that weight being on the 3 point makes my remote bleed off. Any ideas of where to start? The blade is a bush hog 100-09, weighs about 800-900 pounds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Re(1): Oliver 1750 hydraulic problems

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 4, 2016 at 07:23:48 AM by Larry Harsin

Try switching the hoses on the remote on that side and see what happens. If that stops the problem, you probably have leakage in your tractor. If it still leaks or lowers down, you could have a problem in one of your loader cylinders. Larry


1955 PTO options

IP: 69.80.117.49 Posted on April 2, 2016 at 09:44:25 PM by Greg

I am looking at a 1955 Oliver to purchase for use on my acreage. The tractor has the 1000 PTO shaft installed. Can you install the 540 PTO shaft on this tractor? All of my equipment uses the 540 PTO shaft. Thanks

Re(1): 1955 PTO options

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 4, 2016 at 07:20:13 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes. There should be a 540 shaft with a restrictor. You remove the 1000 and install the 540 shaft. There is also a shifter that you have to change. Larry

Re(2): 1955 PTO options

IP: 173.198.140.34 Posted on April 6, 2016 at 08:58:52 PM by Greg

Thanks Larry. Is there instructions in the 1955 operator manual that talks about changing the shifter? I don't see a 540 shaft with the tractor. Will any 540 PTO shaft from 55 series work?


1750 disel hydraulic detent

IP: 66.249.80.103 Posted on April 1, 2016 at 10:12:41 AM by Chet Risser

On our Oliver 1750 our hydraulic remeotes are slowly working in the forward position without reving the engine hard but to go the other way they work fine at a idle.

Re(1): 1750 disel hydraulic detent

IP: 184.21.143.147 Posted on April 4, 2016 at 07:18:17 AM by Larry Harsin

I don't think there is anything wrong. It is sort of the "nature of the beast". Check the Operator's manual on the adjustment on the restrictors. Larry


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