"Ask The Oliver Mechanic" - April, 2017 Archives


oliver 1800 parts

Posted by al testa on April 28, 2017, 10:21 am 184.6.190.145

need catalog for rebuilding oliver 1800 for farming

Re: oliver 1800 parts

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 28, 2017, 1:28 pm, in reply to "oliver 1800 parts" 184.21.154.199

We don't have a catalog for the used parts etc. we sell. I'm wondering if you mean a Parts Manual. They will have all 3 Manuals for your tractor at the Floyd Co. Museum in Charles City, IA (Where the tractors were built). Call the Museum at 641-228-1099. An Operator's Manual, A Service Manual, A Parts Manual. Some of the Service Manuals seem a bit high, but sometimes they are for more than one tractor. They may have a Build Card for your tractor. There was a computer going down the assembly line beside your tractor. When they put some things into your tractor, they would punch the computer. I believe it is $30 to get a copy of this card. One of the things it will tell you are the first dealership that sold the tractor. And many other things. I hope this info is helpful. Sandra Harsin


Oliver 88 row crop

Posted by Kurt Weinheimer [Email User] on April 25, 2017, 7:23 am 71.251.167.78

Larry, I posted this problem in early April,but I did not hear back so I thought I'd try again. The gear shift on my 88 is very loose. When you put it in reverse,low range, the shifter hits the steering column & the dash. I pulled the shifter and could see nothing wrong! Is there supposed to be bushings or something that"tightens"it up and if there is where would I find them? P.S. I can't even get in reverse in high range ! Kurt

Re: Oliver 88 row crop

Posted by Larry Harsin [Email User] on April 26, 2017, 8:41 am, in reply to "Oliver 88 row crop" 184.21.154.199

Sometimes if the mechanism isn't worn too much, I have taken the torch and heated the shift lever in about midway and bend it a bit away from the dash so that it won't hit the dash. This is a common problem. On the other hand, if there seems to be a lot of wear on the lever and shift tower, I could supply you one that is in better condition to start with. Give me a call: 712-362-2966. Larry

Re: Oliver 88 row crop

Posted by Kurt Weinheimer [Email User] on April 26, 2017, 7:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Oliver 88 row crop" 71.251.167.78

Larry. Thanks for the input. I'll try bending it first and see what happens. Kurt


How to start an Oliver HG

Posted by Maddie Chapman on April 22, 2017, 10:10 pm 70.199.131.99

Please walk me through how to start my Oliver HG. There are two in perfectly new condition, completely restored, in the shed. I inherited these from my grandfather and they haven't been moved in a couple of years. I can't find anyone who knows how to start one up. Thank you!

Re: How to start an Oliver HG

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 24, 2017, 7:49 am, in reply to "How to start an Oliver HG" 184.21.154.199

They just start like any gasoline engine. If you can't figure it out, read the Operator's Manual. If you don't have one, call the Floyd County Museum in Charles City and get one. 641-228-1099. Larry


1951 oliver row crop gas

Posted by Ken mosley jr on April 22, 2017, 7:58 pm 69.141.238.119

Hello.. i lost my pop in febuary. He raised corn.. i used the oliver to shell corn..tractor ran good for 3 hours..went to start again and cannot get it running.not sure what to look for first...i notice the first time i started it. When i turn the key to on position the balist before the coil was glowing red hot ... now i notice it does not glow. Could this be something? How do i check this.. im not sure what else to check.. can u give me some suggestions to try....again when i crank it over . It revs up for a second then dies.... my pop was the farmer he did it all.

Re: 1951 oliver row crop gas

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 24, 2017, 7:46 am, in reply to "1951 oliver row crop gas " 184.21.154.199

Sorry about your Dad! Yes. That ballast might be bad. Larry


Pre-Cleaner

Posted by John Lanich on April 19, 2017, 11:36 am 64.113.177.149

Why do some Oliver 77's and 88's have a Pre-Cleaner Cap above the Hood and some don't? Does it have something to do with the date made or a difference in the engine? Was it a Factory Option? What's the advantage of having the Cap above the Hood?

With that said, I don't know enough about these Tractors. Do the others have a Cap? It's just under the Hood?

I am a small time Tractor Collector and have been searching for a 77 or 88 to add to my collection for a few years now. I kind of like the Pre-Cleaner up through the Hood look. I'm sure there will be several say that the Tractor looks sleeker without it but I just like it.

Re: Pre-Cleaner

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 20, 2017, 8:20 am, in reply to "Pre-Cleaner" 184.21.154.199

What prompted some of the older users of these tractors, was the use of a mounted corn picker. They used Pre-cleamer caps on the older tractors to make them work better. Larry


1948 Oliver Row Crop Engine Stalling

Posted by Travis Shives on April 18, 2017, 9:54 pm 50.110.196.196

Hello my grandfathers 1948 Oliver Row Crop seems to have an issue that I cant seem to exactly pinpoint. It starts up and idles ok for a few minutes and when it seems to get warmed up (after 3-4 minutes of running), it almost sounds like there is a miss and when I move the governor idler control arm down (to give more throttle) and put it into gear, it starts to move maybe 6-8 feet and starts to dies out and sometimes if I give it a little more gas to keep it idling in neutral after the almost stall out, I'm seeing what looks to be an ember/coal emit from the exhaust stack (very small and minimal).....any ideas on what this could be?? I did clean the carburetor out with the cleaner (where I could get) but did not attempt to take it off and rebuild it as I am no expert in that field and wasn't sure if this was the problem or not. When I attempted my cleaning, I was able to run the tractor for about 3/4 minutes without issue but still sounded like a small miss and then all of a sudden the same thing happened. I left it sit for a few minutes, started it up and was able to move it about 10-20 feet.....shut it down & waited & was able to move 10-20 more feet...& repeated until it was back in the garage.

Thanks for All Your Help,

Travis

Re: 1948 Oliver Row Crop Engine Stalling

Posted by Travis Shives on April 18, 2017, 10:08 pm, in reply to "1948 Oliver Row Crop Engine Stalling" 166.216.165.78

Also it is a Zenith carburetor from what I can see and a 6 speed transmission. I did not a screw on the carb that appears for be maybe an idle set and it is screwed all the way (not sure that's right) in and a little bar looking thing that turned all the way out (I'm assuming this leave something "wide open" so to speak & not sure where that should be set either) - thanks again!!

Re: 1948 Oliver Row Crop Engine Stalling

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 20, 2017, 8:17 am, in reply to "Re: 1948 Oliver Row Crop Engine Stalling" 184.21.154.199

The first thing I would do is make sure it is getting adequate fuel from the fuel tank. There may be foreign material in there keeping it from getting adequate fuel. I'd remove the fuel strainer and clean it. Larry


Fuel gauge 1800 series C diesel

Posted by Ned Meister on April 17, 2017, 8:32 pm 166.217.184.222

What universal replacement gauges will replace the OEM gauge?

Re: Fuel gauge 1800 series C diesel

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 20, 2017, 8:12 am, in reply to "Fuel gauge 1800 series C diesel" 184.21.154.199

I use the one from AGCO. Get one from your local AGCO dealer. Larry


770 Oliver - What Oil to put in transmission

Posted by Roger White on April 17, 2017, 1:22 pm 199.120.99.47

restoring a 1963 Oliver 770. Am wondering what oil to put in the rear axle transmission. The manual says a 10W30 with an additive. What would be recommended? Also what would you use for power steering fluid?

Re: 770 Oliver - What Oil to put in transmission

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 20, 2017, 8:10 am, in reply to "770 Oliver - What Oil to put in transmission" 184.21.154.199

If the tractor has a power booster. I recommend Mobile-trans HD- 50. If it doesn't have a power booster, use 90w transmission oil. For the Power Steering use 20w hydraulic oil. Larry


Oliver HG 42 mag

Posted by Leroy Dupree on April 17, 2017, 10:53 am 24.110.22.207

Can the Mag be replaced with a distributor on a 1950 Oliver HG. If so where could I get a distributor. Thanks in advance

Re: Oliver HG 42 mag

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 20, 2017, 8:04 am, in reply to "Oliver HG 42 mag" 184.21.154.199

Contact Ladis Zimmerman. He is the Cletrac Specialist. Email: ZOC@pcfreemail.com Phone: 717-738-2573. Larry


Oliver 99 right rear axle broke

Posted by Chris M Rowland on April 16, 2017, 6:31 pm 174.233.131.39

How do u get the right rear axle axle out?

Re: Oliver 99 right rear axle broke

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 17, 2017, 7:38 am, in reply to "Oliver 99 right rear axle broke" 184.21.154.199

Very carefully! Ha! First, you will have to remove the wheel from the axle. Then, remove the bolts that hold the bearing out at the end of the housing and the axle should slide out. You may want to get a Shop Manual for a 99 from the Museum in Charles City. 641-228-1099. Larry


1967 Oliver 1850 setting the clutch release levers

Posted by Jesse Cassity on April 15, 2017, 11:59 am 174.209.26.180

I have replaced the pto hub on my 1850. I am having trouble getting the finger on my pressure plate into adjustment. Any suggestions? Can I do this through the inspection plate on the hydrodrive? Or should I pull the motor again?

Re: 1967 Oliver 1850 setting the clutch release levers

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 17, 2017, 7:29 am, in reply to "1967 Oliver 1850 setting the clutch release levers " 184.21.154.199

No. You may have to pull the engine out and start over. Larry


1850 hydraulics

Posted by ray stark on April 14, 2017, 10:56 am 162.220.181.207

1850hyd. hooked to bat wing mower left side set for 2way hyd.r-side for sngl. hook wings to inside remote r/side to center lift.when activate inner remote to raise wings come up,hold lever and center will also raise.Should it do this or what is my problem. HELP Ray Stark 1 417 967 4797

Re: 1850 hydraulics

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 17, 2017, 7:27 am, in reply to "1850 hydraulics" 184.21.154.199

That is the nature of your tractor. It will do that. Larry


1950 power steering

Posted by Aubrey Lindler on April 14, 2017, 6:15 am 174.194.14.130

I have a 1950 that has become very difficult to steer, the hydraulic lift is working. This problem started the last time I used the tractor. The hydraulic oil was a bit low. Now the steering wheel is very difficult to turn and then I can only get slight movement of the front wheels. What would you suggest to look at first?

Re: 1950 powe steering

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 14, 2017, 8:00 am, in reply to "1950 powe steering " 184.21.154.199

You may have a sticky regulator spool in the power steering flow divider. Run your engine about half throttle and wiggle the hydraulic remote levers back and forth. If this doesn't help, you may have to remove the regulator spool and check for a burr on it or some foreign material. Larry

Re: 1950 powe steering

Posted by Aubrey on April 24, 2017, 8:48 pm, in reply to "Re: 1950 powe steering " 174.193.131.77

I finally got to work on the tractor a bit, I disassembled the diverter valve it seemed to be OK, all parts moved freely. With the front wheels off the ground the steering works but is not smooth it seems to be "notchy". The tractor is a 1966 model 2 wheel drive. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


1755 oil in water, water in oil

Posted by Jim Grasse on April 13, 2017, 7:55 pm 50.50.229.221

My 1755 diesel wau has water in oil also oil in water . Is this a cooler problem?

Re: 1755 oil in water, water in oil

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 14, 2017, 7:56 am, in reply to "1755 oil in water, water in oil" 184.21.154.199

I don't think a 1755 has an oil cooler. My guess is that it could be a cracked sleeve or an O ring on a sleeve. Larry


1945 Oliver 60 Row Crop Restoration

Posted by Tim Buckner on April 13, 2017, 5:41 pm 75.167.84.78

I am in need of a seat back for the 1945 Oliver 60. Parts book says the numbr is K 950 or H 950 will work. I also need a reinforcement bracket for the fender mounted lights. Part number is B1263 Any ideas where I might locate these?

Re: 1945 Oliver 60 Row Crop Restoration

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 14, 2017, 7:55 am, in reply to "1945 Oliver 60 Row Crop Restoration" 184.21.154.199

Try Balko Industries 715-357-3305. I think they were making the seat backs. On that B1253 bracket, check with Arnold Meyer 507-372-7788. Larry

Re: 1945 Oliver 60 Row Crop Restoration

Posted by Tim Buckner on April 14, 2017, 1:53 pm, in reply to "Re: 1945 Oliver 60 Row Crop Restoration" 75.167.84.78

Thanks again Larry, I was able to contact Arnold Meyer and he says he has the parts I need.


Red River Special

Posted by Tom on April 13, 2017, 5:04 pm 67.237.21.87

I have an Amish friend asking me to go and pick up a Red River Special 22" thresher. I am trying to find out the specifications for overall size and weight to see if I can haul on my trailer. Any idea where I might find this information? Thanks, Tom

Re: Red River Special

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 14, 2017, 7:49 am, in reply to "Red River Special" 184.21.154.199

The Museum in Charles City might have a manual for it. If you are "saving" it, it would be nice to have a copy of the manual. I don't know what it would weigh, but I would think you could handle it with a goose-necked trailer. To get a manual, call the Floyd County Museum 641-228-1099. Possibly they will tell you measurements etc. Larry


1555 PTO PUMP

Posted by Craig on April 11, 2017, 7:19 pm 70.198.46.28

I have a 1555 loader special with no hydraulics or 3 point. It currently has a farmhand F-10 loader with a PTO pump. I just got a Farmhand TA26 loader with grapple and am looking at a different PTO pump. Will the Prince 21 GPM be a good match for this loader?

Re: 1555 PTO PUMP

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 12, 2017, 7:43 am, in reply to "1555 PTO PUMP" 184.21.154.199

I would think that would be adequate. Larry


white 1370 wont start

Posted by crazyhorsemd on April 11, 2017, 6:19 am 66.161.185.10

I have a white 1370 4 cyl diesel bought 6 years ago Always seems hard to start. after 7-8 tries the battery doesn't seem to have enough power to turn over. In the past, a shot (literally) of ether would help. Lately, once started, runs for 30 minutes then slowly loses power and dies then wont start for day or two. New battery w/ 1000 CCA still hard to start. no new smoking issues. Love the tractor but can be a pain to start. Any advice appreciated Thanks Crazyhorsemd

Re: white 1370 wont start

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 12, 2017, 7:41 am, in reply to "white 1370 wont start" 184.21.154.199

Sound like you may have a tired engine with a worn and weak injection pump. Larry


American Bosch PSB4 injection pump

Posted by Kevin Brown on April 10, 2017, 8:44 pm 71.28.13.165

This question is specifically about the PSB 4 injection pump more than the tractor. It would be the same pump used on Supper 55 diesel for example. The pump on the 1954 year D 201 continental engine produces a miss but cannot be traced to a single cylinder as they all respond alike when you crack the injection line. It also wet stacks and produces very little smoke. Have tested the injectors, double checked the timing and had the head rebuilt as part of the restoration. Should not be a valve issue. This machine sat for many years so I have no history on it. All filters are new and supply line pressure is at 15 lbs as the manual calls for.

It had grown steadily worse after a couple hours run time so I thoroughly cleaned the pump after finding very fine material buildup around the high pressure check valve.

I believe it is either the hydraulic head is worn out or the high pressure check valve or spring is bad. Of course I would prefer the valve and spring to the head cost wise.

After cleaning the pump it does run better but still have the miss and no smoke so wet stacking is still taking place. Basically it took me back to the running condition shortly after first start up.

This engine has the pre combustion chamber system of ignition. What has been your experience with these pumps?

Re: American Bosch PSB4 injection pump

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 12, 2017, 7:39 am, in reply to "American Bosch PSB4 injection pump" 184.21.154.199

These pumps have a good track record, but I'd recommend that you call the pump shop in Estherville. Central Fuel Injection 712-362-4200. Larry


Backhoe with waukesha 232

Posted by Jerry Case on April 10, 2017, 8:27 pm 67.32.32.71

Larry I have a White backhoe with a 232 waukesha and it has a lot of blow by. I have a friend that has a 310 waukesha. Will the 310 change out with the 232 without having to do a lot of changing things? I would also like to know if you know anyone that needs the 232 to rebuild because they are so hard to find and it runs good and still has 30 to 40 lbs. of oil pressure just getting weak and the blow by. Thanks Jerry

Re: Backhoe with waukesha 232

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 12, 2017, 7:36 am, in reply to "Backhoe with waukesha 232 " 184.21.154.199

I would recommend repairing the engine that you have. Check with Korves Oliver for engine parts. 618-939-6681. Larry


1950T

Posted by Dean on April 9, 2017, 1:48 pm 71.80.40.90

My 1950T is making an awful noise under the deck. Since making the noise I have no hydraulics, PTO, steering etc. The noise stops once I push in the clutch and power ceases to the transmission. What do you think.

Re: 1950T

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 10, 2017, 8:06 am, in reply to "1950T" 184.21.154.199

I'd take the top off of the transmission and see what is going on. Larry

Re: 1950T

Posted by Dean on April 10, 2017, 9:07 am, in reply to "Re: 1950T" 71.80.40.90

Thank-you I will try that


1855 Oliver hydraulic pump noisy

Posted by Andy on April 7, 2017, 11:32 pm 174.198.1.144

I changed hydraulic fluid last year in September. Ever since then the hydraulic pump has been extremely noisy. Like it is getting air somewhere. It does get worse when brakes are applied and worse when steering wheel is moved. It also get really hot fast like in 5minutes of just idling. I have checked the pump on the side by the fuel pump that pump is working fine. I have checked the bleeder valve with air to see if seat got cracked. I have checked filter canister for tightness and proper torque. I don't see any major leaks. I'm ready to sell this thing, I like it but what a pain.

Re: 1855 Oliver hydraulic pump noisy

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 8, 2017, 7:04 am, in reply to "1855 Oliver hydraulic pump noisy" 184.21.154.199

You say that the pump become noisy after you changed the hydraulic oil. This causes me to wonder if you put the proper fluid in it. The oil has to go through that filter before it gets to that pump and if the oil is too thick, it will cavitate. White specifies type 55 or equivalent oil. Larry

Re: 1855 Oliver hydraulic pump noisy

Posted by arnie on April 9, 2017, 7:45 am, in reply to "1855 Oliver hydraulic pump noisy" 66.230.245.170

I had one do that. One of the kids bumped one of the hyd levers while climbing on the seat and it was in a use position instead of being centered. Just a thought. Arnie


Super88 diesel

Posted by Joe Kentoffio on April 4, 2017, 1:24 pm 73.218.154.163

Hello Larry: I have a 1955 Super88 diesel. It starts and runs fine except it makes a popping sound that increases in frequency with the engine revs. I think it may be a stuck valve. The engine sits for long periods over the winter without being started. Please let me know what you think the issue is and how I might fix it.

Re: Super88 diesel

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 6, 2017, 8:04 am, in reply to "Super88 diesel" 184.21.154.199

It does sound like a stuck valve. You may have to take the valve cover off and shoot it with some WD-40. Larry


1950T Transmission problems

Posted by Aaron Karaszewski on April 3, 2017, 10:45 pm 67.242.170.186

Hello Larry, I am thinking of possibly trying to buy a 1968 Model 1950T from a local auction taking place near me. I am just trying to kind of figure what could possibly be wrong with it. So I have an idea what I am getting into if I do happen to aquire this tractor. Someone at sometime has put in a 5.9 cummins with the original 3 speed hydra power unit. I assume the original 310ci didn't make it! Anyway the problem is that the tractor will not move forward or back. The engine does run and sounds good, I had a chance to check it out this past weekend. The tractor is advertised as needing a clutch and runs but does not move, will go into gear. With the engine running the chain coupler does spin at the back of hydra-power and the input shaft of the transmission also spins as it should. There does seem to be some noise coming from that area, I am thinking that maybe just coupler alignment there is not bolt in the bottom to adjust it. The tractor does seem to go into different gears but nothing happens. Pushing the clutch in or letting it out does not seem to make any difference and engine load does not change when engaging/disengaging clutch. The coupler spins all the time regardless of clutch position. Could the transmission input shaft be broken or the splines are gone? The rear end does not seem to be locked up, because the tractor was towed around the farm lot and there is no signs of tires dragging. I believe there is more issues than just a burn out clutch. Is that a possibility of the input shaft be the problem? Or is that not common problem? The other thing I noticed is that the steering did not seem to work while the tractor was running leading me to believe the hydraulic pump is not working. Could that be part of the same problem if the shaft is broken then the gear would not turn the pump? I did not think of trying the three point to see if that worked or not. Any info that you could give me would be great and maybe help my decision to try and get the tractor or not. Also I would need a hood a side panels for this tractor. Someone hacked up the hood to try and make a different fuel tank work and also the air cleaners fit under the hood where the turbo inlet pipe is. The side panels are completely missing. Would you have any of this sheet metal available for sale? It has twin pre cleaners on it. I also have a few 1800 questions but Ill save that for a different post. Thanks again Aaron

Re: 1950T Transmission problems

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 6, 2017, 8:01 am, in reply to "1950T Transmission problems" 184.21.154.199

It sounds to me like the trouble is in the transmission someplace. I do have a 1950T hood and some tin work. Larry Harsin 712-362-2966.


1550 HPD clutch pack

Posted by Charles Limmer on April 2, 2017, 9:49 am 67.249.197.22

Oliver 1550 HPD clutch pack question. Shop manual says the friction plate (internal teeth) thickness should be .120 to .112, all of mine are right on .112. Should I replace them or use as-us? New ones from Agco are $110 each. Steel plates (external teeth) are not worn at all.

Re: 1550 HPD clutch pack

Posted by Larry Harsin on April 3, 2017, 8:47 am, in reply to "1550 HPD clutch pack" 184.21.154.199

I wouldn't buy new ones. I would use them as-is. Larry


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