"Ask The Oliver Mechanic" - August, 2014 Archives


Oliver 1850 vibration damper

IP: 216.165.145.54 Posted on August 31, 2014 at 05:23:07 PM by Larry M

I need to remove the power steering cylinder, and as a first step, the engine vibration damper is supposed to be removed. I took out the 9 bolts, but it wouldn't budge. Is there something else that must be removed to get the damper off? Thanks

Re(1): Oliver 1850 vibration damper

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on September 1, 2014 at 09:06:51 AM by Larry Harsin

I'm assuming that this is a Perkins motor. According to the information that I have, that damper should come off when you remove the 9 cap screws. I would be careful not to damage the damper as I try to remove it. If the washer on the pulley retaining nut is larger, that front bolt that holds the pulley on may have to be removed if the washer interferes. Larry


OLIVER 550 STALLS

IP: 199.190.159.246 Posted on August 27, 2014 at 04:37:37 PM by Tom Burdick

My Oliver 550 will start, run strong for about 15 seconds then cough and die. I've taken the carb apart and cleaned it, replaced the sediment bowl, put on new plug wires and a new coil. The problem continues, any suggestions where to turn next?

Re(1): OLIVER 550 STALLS

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 29, 2014 at 07:19:15 AM by Larry Harsin

Keep looking. It is either electrical or fuel. Larry


1650 hydro power unit

IP: 69.26.10.96 Posted on August 27, 2014 at 10:27:24 AM by Bill W

The hydra power unit on my 1966 1650 diesel is acting up. It works fine in direct drive, but pull the lever out and it is like putting it in neutral. We plan on tearing into it and wondering where we might get any parts needed. Any help would be appreciated.

Re(1): 1650 hydro power unit

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 29, 2014 at 07:18:02 AM by Larry Harsin

Your sprag clutch is not working. The unit will have to be disassembled and the sprag clutch replaced. Larry

Re(2): 1650 hydro power unit

IP: 69.26.10.96 Posted on September 5, 2014 at 10:27:20 PM by Bill Wagner

Thanks Larry - the guy at O'brian Implement said the same thing and they have the clutch.


1850 thermostat

IP: 70.208.16.96 Posted on August 26, 2014 at 11:14:19 PM by Trajan

Larry, How do I get to the thermostat on an 1850 with the Perkins diesel. Thanks

Re(1): 1850 thermostat

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 29, 2014 at 07:16:45 AM by Larry Harsin

The housing on the cylinder head has to be removed to get into that thermostat. Larry

Re(2): 1850 thermostat

IP: 67.215.17.213 Posted on August 29, 2014 at 09:53:38 AM by Trajan

How does the housing come off. I have removed 4 bolts that look like they go into the block separated the gasket with a putty knife and it still won't let loose. Any other fitting that I am missing. I don't want to force the issues and break castings.

Re(3): 1850 thermostat

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 30, 2014 at 07:23:09 AM by Larry Harsin

In the Shop Manual, it looks like there are 2 more bolts to remove. It doesn't show where they are. Hopefully you can figure it out. Larry


1800 oil pump

IP: 66.87.72.34 Posted on August 26, 2014 at 09:51:31 AM by W Blevins

I recently inquired about low oil pressure on my 1800 A. I dropped the pan as you advised and ended up pulling the pump and checking it. After all checks when I reinstalled the pump and replaced the pan, now the tractor seems to be out of time. I consulted the service manual and it says something about aligning the flat spot on the shaft with the crank then turning it 1/8 turn. Is there some kind of correlation between the ignition timing and the oil pump that I'm missing. The engine was never turned over when the oil pump was off. Thanks for any input.

Re(1): 1800 oil pump

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 29, 2014 at 07:15:34 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes. The way you install the pump affects the timing. You can correct for it without taking the pump out of the engine, Put your engine on Top Dead Center #1 and then adjust your distributor accordingly, so that the rotor aligns with the plug wire hole that fires #1 cylinder. Then put the other wires in according to the firing order: 1,5,3,6,2,4. Larry


Oliver 550 backfire

IP: 166.147.72.25 Posted on August 24, 2014 at 12:04:51 PM by Cindy

I have a 1959 Oliver 550 gas engine and it backfires through the exhaust. What could be my problem?

Re(1): Oliver 550 backfire

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 26, 2014 at 07:34:16 AM by Larry Harsin

You could have a sticky exhaust valve or you could have an electrical problem such as a bad condenser. Larry


1650 Oliver diesel tractor clutch replacement

IP: 68.65.47.32 Posted on August 23, 2014 at 08:14:43 AM by Linda

Husbands going to attempt to replace the clutch on a 1650 Oliver diesel tractor. do you have any diagrams on a step by step process? how do you remove the bell housing?

Re(1): 1650 Oliver diesel tractor clutch replacement

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 26, 2014 at 07:32:33 AM by Larry Harsin

You should get a Shop Manual to guide you. You can get one from Charles City Museum. 641-228-1099. We have been gone to the National Oliver Show, so we are a bit slow in answering. Larry


Narrow front end

IP: 74.235.14.175 Posted on August 20, 2014 at 04:07:04 PM by Gary

Will the narrow front end of a 1800 line up and fit a 1900?

Re(1): Narrow front end

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 26, 2014 at 07:30:21 AM by Larry Harsin

I don't think it will but I'm not sure. The design is different between the 2 tractors, Check with Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. and see what he says. Larry


Oliver 1650/770 PTO Lube

IP: 132.194.206.64 Posted on August 20, 2014 at 08:52:07 AM by Michael

Just a quick question, been having a bit of a problem finding information on this machine. I have a 1650 that has the older 770 dry PTO clutch setup on it. I know that this is a separate oil reservoir but seem to be finding conflicting information about what this box is supposed to be filled with? Would 80/90 be appropriate? Also, Is the 770 PTO setup common to run into on these machines?

Re(1): Oliver 1650/770 PTO Lube

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 26, 2014 at 07:28:03 AM by Larry Harsin

80-90 would be fine. Normally that style PTO is not used on a 1650. Larry


Hydraulic leak

IP: 67.175.166.79 Posted on August 19, 2014 at 04:20:09 PM by Jim

I have a 1959 880 oliver. There is a severe hydralic leak coming from the restrictor swivel on the right side. The swivel has a lot of play in it when I wiggle it with my hand . Can I rebuild restrictor swivel or should I replace?Where can I get the parts?

Re(1): Hydraulic leak

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 20, 2014 at 07:23:13 AM by Larry Harsin

The restrictor swivel can be repaired. 101148A It takes 2 of these. The O ring on the plunger is just a generic O ring. The 101148A will have to bought at an AGCO Dealer. If you don't have an AGCO Dealer, you can order it from Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Larry

Re(2): Hydraulic leak

IP: 64.7.105.254 Posted on August 21, 2014 at 12:48:17 PM by Jim

Thanks Larry I'll order the parts from Tom and I will let you know it goes.

Re(3): Hydraulic leak

IP: 67.175.166.79 Posted on August 28, 2014 at 02:52:15 PM by Jim Hilliard

Thanks Larry is was a simple fix everything seems to be working fine. Do you know the lift capacity of a 1610 loader on a 880 ? Thinking about using my tractor with a grapple for small hay bales.

Re(4): Hydraulic leak

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 29, 2014 at 07:11:40 AM by Larry Harsin

I think it will probably work for small bales, but it won't work for big bales. Larry


1650

IP: 72.152.233.48 Posted on August 19, 2014 at 09:58:03 AM by Jimmy Camp

Painting my 1650 any color numbers to make sure I have got the correct paint?

Re(1): 1650

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 20, 2014 at 07:18:09 AM by Larry Harsin

I use the Meadow Green and Clover that I get from an AGCO Dealer. Larry


1650 Clutch

IP: 68.65.47.32 Posted on August 23, 2014 at 08:07:43 AM by Linda

Husbands going to attempt to replace the clutch on a 1650 Oliver diesel tractor. do you have any diagrams on a step by step process? how do you remove the bell housing?

Re(1): 1650 Clutch

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 26, 2014 at 07:25:08 AM by Larry Harsin

The engine with the hydra-power has to be removed, then you can set the engine on the floor and unbolt the hydra power unit from the engine to replace the clutch. Larry


1850 leak

IP: 184.61.193.52 Posted on August 17, 2014 at 03:32:03 PM by Brian

Have an 1850 diesel that leaks oil out the cap u remove to take out the long power shaft in the rear of the tractor. I replaced the o-ring on the short shaft by the snap ring. Is there another o-ring or seal that may be out causing it to pump out the oil?

Re(1): 1850 leak

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 19, 2014 at 07:13:28 AM by Larry Harsin

What you did should have fixed it. You may have pushed the plug past the O ring when you did your repair. That would cause this. Larry


2150

IP: 67.206.97.167 Posted on August 17, 2014 at 08:12:08 AM by jack

how many of the 2150 with the hercules 6cyl diesel row crop tractors were made.Have found one that is very complete and wonderering if it is very rare.

Re(1): 2150

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 19, 2014 at 07:11:26 AM by Larry Harsin

They aren't very rare. I don't have production records on it, Larry


1755 Engine oil filter

IP: 74.44.61.197 Posted on August 13, 2014 at 02:52:56 PM by Kevin Rathai

Can 1755 with sock type oil filter be switched to a spin on filter?

Re(1): 1755 Engine oil filter

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 16, 2014 at 07:50:05 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes. It can. Larry


1937 RC 70

IP: 198.11.127.73 Posted on August 11, 2014 at 03:37:01 PM by Dan Chicos

I have a 1937 Oliver Hart Parr 70 row crop. It has a generator. Is it a 6 volt positive ground electrical system? It needs points condenser, plugs and coil. Where can I get mechanical information about parts and service?

Re(1): 1937 RC 70

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 13, 2014 at 08:14:58 AM by Larry Harsin

The Operator's Manual will tell you all about these things. You can get one from the Museum in Charles City, IA. If you need more info than that, get a Service Manual from the same place. You can get those parts from your AGCO Dealer. If you don't have an AGCO Dealer, call Tom at O'Brien County Impl 800-320-6224. Larry


1800 oil pressure

IP: 66.87.75.11 Posted on August 8, 2014 at 02:25:41 PM by W. Blevins

While using my 1800A gas today I noticed that while climbing any type of incline it loses oil pressure. It is full of oil and the motor seems to not have any rattles or knocks. As soon as the front end levels out the pressure returns to normal(around 25-27 psi). After watching it closely I noticed the gauge would also fluctuate in an abrupt start or stop. Was thinking maybe a hole or crack in the oil pump pickup tube. Any thoughts or suggestions before I drop the pan would be greatly appreciated.

Re(1): 1800 oil pressure

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 13, 2014 at 08:09:38 AM by Larry Harsin

I would check that out. Just go ahead and drop the pan and see what you find. Larry


1650 Tilt Steering Wheel

IP: 152.131.11.3 Posted on August 5, 2014 at 03:58:45 PM by Jed

Is ther an easy way to fix the tilt steering on my 1650. I purchased it with the steering wheel stuck down and my attempt to fix it made it look like a major project. Just wondering if there are any easy fixes.

Re(1): 1650 Tilt Steering Wheel

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 6, 2014 at 09:53:08 AM by Larry Harsin

No. There are no easy fixes. I usually remove the Hydra motor to get at that mechanism. Larry


oliver 880

IP: 98.223.239.21 Posted on August 4, 2014 at 11:00:14 AM by michael k. moore

Will a 283 engine from a 1650 fit into an 880? thank you mkm

Re(1): oliver 880

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 6, 2014 at 09:49:07 AM by Larry Harsin

Yes. It will bolt in. Larry


Ethanol treatment

IP: 69.249.129.251 Posted on August 3, 2014 at 10:31:21 PM by Mike Renner

Larry, I have an Oliver 77, 88, & 770 all that are gasoline. Do you think it is necessary to add an ethanol treatment to the gasoline since it does contain up to 10% ethanol? Thank you for your time and help, Mike

Re(1): Ethanol treatment

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 6, 2014 at 09:47:58 AM by Larry Harsin

I think it will get along fine without the treatment. If it sits for a long time between uses, you may want to use Stabil Gas Treatment. Larry


Paint

IP: 71.162.254.91 Posted on August 3, 2014 at 02:53:50 PM by Christian

We have a 1938 oliver and are looking to paint it. What color should the starter and the generator be? Is there a book on restoring olivers?

Re(1): Paint

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 6, 2014 at 09:45:35 AM by Larry Harsin

I think the starter and generator should be green like the rest of the engine. I don't know if there is a book. Larry


550 PTO seal replacement

IP: 99.187.185.227 Posted on August 3, 2014 at 02:28:57 PM by Greg

I am working or replacing the pro clutch discs and seals of a 550. I have split the tractor and remove all the pto parts down to the spider hub and dreaded spanner nut. This is where I am having my problem. How do I get the spanner nut off? I have tried the following: beating the nut with a hammer and wedge; using a pipe wrench on a spanner wrench made out of 2" pipe with 4 tabs welded to the end; added a impact socket to the end of my spanner wrench to use a impact gun; and generally just heating, beating, cursing and repeating. All to no avail. Any other suggestions? A couple of things I have noticed. To keep the hub from turning, I have been using a scratch awl to put in a hole on the outside of the hub. At least until I sheared off the awl will trying to turn the my spanner wrench with the pipe wrench. How should I keep the spider hub from turning while trying to remove the nut? Second I have been using a propane torch to heat the nut, so far it is not helping. I read where one guy used MAP gas. What are your feelings on using MAP gas? Finally, if I destroy the spanner nut, can I get a replacement?

Re(1): 550 PTO seal replacement

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 6, 2014 at 09:51:35 AM by Larry Harsin

That spanner nut is threaded in there and should come out. It is a right hand thread. Larry


1650 diesel problems

IP: 68.69.75.155 Posted on August 2, 2014 at 02:50:01 PM by Justin Hanks

I was baling with a 1650 diesel when the engine surged a few times and died. I checked and cleaned the sediment bowl and screen and changed both fuel filters. After priming and starting the engine it will idle fine but when brought up to operating speed the engine runs fine for a few minutes then cuts out lopes and dies. Tried restarting and got the same results. Am I looking at an injection pump? Any ideas? Thanks

Re(1): 1650 diesel problems

IP: 172.242.134.43 Posted on August 6, 2014 at 09:41:31 AM by Larry Harsin

Either it is not getting fuel to the pump or the pump is not getting fuel to the engine. You'll have to check these things and figure it out. Larry


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