"Ask The Oliver Mechanic" - June, 2012 Archives


Power Steering Leak

IP: 173.88.2.254 Posted on June 28, 2012 at 02:16:59 PM by Larry

I have a 1950t,there is oil pumping up and leaking from the outer shaft under the steering wheel.Hdr. oil is running down outer shaft onto the platform. My power steering does not have the big aluminum knob on ster. wheel.The shop manual says there are 2 seals on top of hdromotor, could either of these be my problem,there is no other steering difficulties.Can this be fixed without removing hdromotor.

Re(1): Power Steering Leak

IP: 97.73.64.154 Posted on June 29, 2012 at 11:30:38 AM by larry from md.

No the real problem is inside.If you still have the old style system its much better to replace the whole thin with a char-lin unit.Buy a kit or make it fit your self.If allready converted to the new style replace the quad seal on the shaft.

Re(2): Power Steering Leak

IP: 75.107.96.58 Posted on July 2, 2012 at 06:35:47 AM by Larry Harsin

I think it can be done without removing from the tractor. Check with Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Tom will have the seal. Larry


88 diesel

IP: 166.147.72.30 Posted on June 28, 2012 at 10:27:43 AM by joe

Will a 1850 (310) waukesa gas engine bolt right into place in an 88 diesel like it will in an 88 gas or are the bolt patterns different and what will it take to make it work?

Re(1): 88 diesel

IP: 75.104.160.36 Posted on June 30, 2012 at 06:55:15 AM by Larry Harsin

The engine will bolt in, but you will have to use an 88 flywheel and bell housing. Larry


Lp gas

IP: 184.100.250.156 Posted on June 28, 2012 at 09:29:02 AM by e firestone

for someone, like me, who has no natural gas connections to the house, no lp gas close to the address, what are the requirements to fill up a lp tractor like on your for sale site??? i know nothing about this stuff....do i need a tank and truck delivery like for propane?? is it the same stuff??? would i need to get a pump etc to transfer to tractor?? would there be a cost savings compared to gas or diesel???? thanks, ernie

Re(1): Lp gas

IP: 75.104.160.54 Posted on June 30, 2012 at 06:54:09 AM by Larry Harsin

You can fill it out of a "nurse tank", but it takes awhile, like overnight, unless you have a transfer pump. Yes. You will need a tank and truck for delivery. Propane and lp are the same. Yes. You would need a pump to put it in the tractor. If you aren't set up for it, I wouldn't bother with an lp tractor. There would be very little cost savings, if any. Larry


Lower link help

IP: 140.180.34.177 Posted on June 26, 2012 at 01:49:58 PM by Aric

I have a super 55 with a loader which I love, of course it has some leakes which I will split and rebuild the pto and seals and I guess I should do a drive clutch and seals as well since I am in there thou it works fine? My main concerns that when I have something with some weight attached to the lower link such as a trailer ball the link seaks up and down an inch or two, I would like to know what I might need to do while I have this all apart. I hate to waste time and money if I do not have to. Thank you for any help or advise

Re(1): Lower link help

IP: 75.104.160.36 Posted on June 27, 2012 at 06:50:25 AM by Larry Harsin

I think that is just wear on the top linkage. You can block that out by eliminating the worn parts. Larry


Oliver 1850 shifting problem.

IP: 71.175.72.249 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 09:56:41 PM by Ed Bachman

Hi I have an Oliver 1850 where the upper set of gears shift fine. When you move the gear shifter into the vertical neutral position with thenfootnoff the clutch it bounces and you can hear clashing. If I proceed to shift it into the lower four gears it feels like it goes into position but when you take your foot off the clutch the tractor barely moves and you get a lot of clashing. I've tried to hold it in gear to see if it will move but it pushes out of gear. After experiencing this situation I removed the gear shift and the knob on the bottom of the stick looks fine and as far as I can tell all the slots were lined up to receive the stick. After reinstalling, the same problem persists. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Re(1): Oliver 1850 shifting problem.

IP: 75.105.32.39 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:48:29 PM by Larry Harsin

I think you have a problem with the input cluster on the input shaft. You'll have to dig a little deeper to find the problem. Larry


Waukesha 283 in my Oliver 1550 Backhoe

IP: 67.172.161.234 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 01:58:29 PM by Dan

I'm attempting to time my rebuilt diesel injection pump with the motor, and I want to know the easiest way to find when the #1 cylinder is at TDC. There are no marks on the crank pulley, and nothing on the block.

Re(1): Waukesha 283 in my Oliver 1550 Backhoe

IP: 99.196.64.57 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:46:36 PM by Larry Harsin

Remove the valve cover. Turning the engine, watch the #6 cylinder. When the exhaust closes and the intake just begins to open, you are at Top Dead Center #1. Then, install the pump and line up the marks in the timing window. You should be ready to go. Larry


1855 hydro leak

IP: 166.137.88.43 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 06:05:33 AM by Colten lambert

Hello sir I have an 1855 diesel that I just purchased 3 weeks ago. Its a great running tractor but has a few hydraulic leaks that need fixed. One of the worst coming from what I believe is called a restrictor valve? Not totally sure. There are two of these side by side just above and to the right of the top link holes. One of them is leaking. I'm assuming that if I remove the dust cap and then the snap ring inside that I will be able to access the inside and change an o ring. Or is there another way that they have to be disassembled? I've owned olivers for a couple of years but am new to workin on hydraulics.

Re(1): 1855 hydro leak

IP: 99.196.64.57 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 07:24:38 AM by Larry Harsin

I'm not sure exactly what you are talking about, but it should be straight forward as to how to fix it. It probably does need a new O ring. Larry

Re(2): 1855 hydro leak

IP: 166.137.88.16 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 01:53:54 PM by Colten lambert

Ok thanks. I should be able to figure it out. Another question, I also have a 1550 gas tractor. I use it on a daily basis and everything works as it should except the hydraulic remotes. They always worked before. But I went for about 5 weeks without using the tractor one winter and when I tried to use the remotes after that they wouldn't work. Everything else works. The three point arms and power steering work fine. I changed the fluid and filter and it still won't do anything. The hoses will kinda jump when you hit the lever but that's about it. They won't operate any cylinders at all. Would you have any idea what may have happened to it?

Re(3): 1855 hydro leak

IP: 99.196.64.57 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 10:41:43 PM by Larry Harsin

The first thing I would do is check the Quick Couplers and see if they are letting oil through. Larry

Re(4): 1855 hydro leak

IP: 166.137.88.30 Posted on June 26, 2012 at 06:24:15 AM by Colten Lambert

I replaced one line and coupler. I'll replace the other as well and see if that makes a difference. If the problem continues after that I'm assuming it's an internal problem. Thanks for the info. Also there's a few parts I need for the 1855. Speedometer cable. And tach cable also. Do you know of a place to get parts? Sorry for all the questions but I live in southern Ohio an no one around me knows anything about olivers

Re(5): 1855 hydro leak

IP: 75.107.96.58 Posted on June 27, 2012 at 06:57:56 AM by Larry Harsin

You can get those parts from Korves Oliver in Red Bud IL, 618-939-6681. There are hundreds of Oliver Collectors in OH. You need to look a little further from home. We'd be happy to have you as a member of the Hart Parr Oliver Collectors' Assoc. Go to www.hpoca.org Larry

Re(6): 1855 hydro leak

IP: 166.137.88.42 Posted on June 28, 2012 at 05:08:06 AM by Colten Lambert

Ok. Thank you very much sir. And I'll look into joining the HPOCA


1800 steering arm?

IP: 67.221.203.109 Posted on June 24, 2012 at 04:48:24 PM by Jason Epperson

I broke the steering arm on my 1800C while brush hogging today! How do I get it out to replace? Drop the front axle or go from the top and take the steering sector off?

Re(1): 1800 steering arm?

IP: 75.104.160.54 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 07:22:34 AM by Larry Harsin

You'll probably have to remove the radiator to access the steering cylinder. Larry


Oliver 1800 Locked up

IP: 50.122.47.139 Posted on June 21, 2012 at 07:09:39 PM by Shawn

1800 Oliver was running fine one day and next morning the engine was locked up. Oil seems to be clean, everything looks right, what might be the cause? I have also seen several cases on the Internet of Locked up 1800's does this happen alot?

Re(1): Oliver 1800 Locked up

IP: 75.104.160.54 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 07:29:03 AM by Larry Harsin

It's hard to say what happened. Take the oil pan off and have a look. Also, check the rods and main bearings. No, this doesn't happen a lot. Larry


Cummins kit

IP: 67.207.251.14 Posted on June 20, 2012 at 09:00:20 PM by Jack

What model Oliver tractor did the cummins kits work on . Think it was the 4 number series but not sure which one

Re(1): Cummins kit

IP: 75.104.160.36 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 07:21:06 AM by Larry Harsin

Most of the Cummins were put into the 1855's and 1955's. Larry


Oliver

IP: 209.152.93.149 Posted on June 20, 2012 at 11:33:52 AM by Brent Eaton

what is the diffrence between a oliver super 88 and a oliver 88 rowcrop diesel??

Re(1): Oliver

IP: 75.107.96.58 Posted on June 25, 2012 at 07:20:00 AM by Larry Harsin

The Super is just a newer model with improvements. Larry


1555

IP: 70.169.108.57 Posted on June 19, 2012 at 07:57:24 AM by Robert

I have a 1555 that has been overhauled. The oil pressure is 30 psi when you start it but when the tractor is warmed up the oil pressure gauge flutters between 5 and 20 real fast at an idle. Is this normal?

Re(1): 1555

IP: 97.73.64.144 Posted on June 19, 2012 at 11:20:04 AM by larry from md.

Did someone replace the oil line to the gauge? If a larger line is installed the gauge will flutter.Make sure the filter has a very small restrictor hole in the bottem. Lots of filters will screw on, but it needs the little hole.

Re(2): 1555

IP: 99.196.64.57 Posted on June 19, 2012 at 08:54:13 PM by Larry Harsin

This is pretty much the nature of the beast. You could try a different gauge, but it might do that too. Larry

Re(3): 1555

IP: 70.169.108.57 Posted on June 20, 2012 at 02:57:14 PM by Robert

I am not so much worried about the flutter as long as the pressure is enough to keep from damaging the motor.

Re(4): 1555

IP: 97.73.64.153 Posted on June 21, 2012 at 05:06:14 PM by larry from md.

That filter should be right. There is a small hole in the center(inside the threads)where the oil goes in. That engine is the older style that runs a lower oil preasure than other ones,it will be fine with 10 psi. A good tight engine should stay 15 to 20 and not jump around.The small pipe to the guage is supposed to evan out the pulses from the oil pump,that has only 2 vanes in it. A guage screwed into the oil gallery will flutter widely. If the small pipe to the gauge was broken guys replace it with a larger size because they can't find the small stuff. This will cause what you describe.


Gas Oliver 1650

IP: 71.254.68.211 Posted on June 18, 2012 at 04:44:11 PM by Art Reed What are the setting points for this tractor. Thank you

Re(1): Gas Oliver 1650

IP: 75.107.96.58 Posted on June 19, 2012 at 07:01:59 AM by Larry Harsin

The point setting is .025. You need to get an Operator's manual. You can get one from the Museum in Charles City IA 641-228-1099. Larry


1850 diesel

IP: 74.36.187.45 Posted on June 15, 2012 at 06:42:26 PM by Austin

I have recently completely overhauled a 1850 diesel. every thing on this engine has been rebuilt or put on new. When it is idling it runs Very good but once you get it above half throttle it Starts missing and smoking. Do you Have any clue on what it is? Thanks.

Re(1): 1850 diesel

IP: 75.105.32.52 Posted on June 16, 2012 at 07:36:04 AM by Larry Harsin

Have you checked the timing? Have the injectors been checked and has the pump been checked at the pump shop? Larry

Re(2): 1850 diesel

IP: 74.36.187.45 Posted on June 16, 2012 at 03:44:54 PM by Austin

We have checked the timing, All new injectors, And $895 dollars Has been put into the injection pump, including a new timing advancer from a diesel shop. thanks

Re(3): 1850 diesel

IP: 97.73.64.150 Posted on June 16, 2012 at 06:32:40 PM by larry from md.

Another common thing is for new valve stems and valves to stick or not work fast,that will cause lots of smoke as the diesel is not burning clean.

Re(4): 1850 diesel

IP: 74.36.187.45 Posted on June 16, 2012 at 08:33:37 PM by Austin

How do you fix that? Thanks

Re(5): 1850 diesel

IP: 75.105.32.52 Posted on June 17, 2012 at 07:28:51 AM by Larry Harsin

I'd let the tractor run for a few hours - maybe put it under a load or use it for awhile, and see if it improves. Larry

Re(6): 1850 diesel

IP: 74.36.187.45 Posted on June 19, 2012 at 08:28:45 AM by Austin

We are going to put it on the dyno sometime next week. thanks


1855 Hyd oil leak

IP: 24.142.191.238 Posted on June 14, 2012 at 04:43:30 PM by Brad

I have an Oliver 1855 with a 1955 engine in it. It has a hydraulic oil leak somewhere underneath all hoses are fine, was wondering if anyone has had similar problem and what may be wrong. Oil leaks out when it is operating and when it is sitting not running. Any leads or help would be appreciated, very good tractor just leaks out all the hyd oil.

Re(1): 1855 Hyd oil leak

IP: 75.104.160.36 Posted on June 16, 2012 at 08:08:46 AM by Larry Harsin

This could be several different things, from worn parts to be replaced to a mere tightening up of some loose part. You will just have to check and maybe try a few things, to figure out what is wrong. Larry


OC46-3-g

IP: 204.249.71.182 Posted on June 13, 2012 at 04:51:13 PM by Sam

I am going crazy trying to figure out why i have no spark? I bought a new coil and have no spark at the coil.I ran a hot wire from battery to + on coil and still have no spark.Machine ran great parked it for winter and now no spark.

Re(1): OC46-3-g

IP: 75.105.32.52 Posted on June 14, 2012 at 06:52:38 AM by Larry Harsin

It probably has dirty points. Larry

Re(2): OC46-3-g

IP: 97.73.64.160 Posted on June 14, 2012 at 11:42:49 AM by larry from md.

Do you have spark at the points?Could be bad condenser or points.Unless changed you should have a positive ground system so the negitive side should be connected to the battery.With negative ground the battery goes to the + side.


1265

IP: 166.147.104.151 Posted on June 12, 2012 at 02:29:28 PM by Jake

My 1265 engages the clutch really hard and the pedal travels way to far to disengage the clutch. Clutch and pto engages at proper pedal position so the pedal is properly adjusted. I think the set screw are also properly adjusted to .60 but may be minutely off. Could that be the problem.

Re(1): 1265

IP: 75.104.160.54 Posted on June 14, 2012 at 06:48:17 AM by Larry Harsin

I don't know that on a 1265. I don't know if it would tell you in the Operator's Manual or not. Check with Rick Stair at email: info@ricksagparts.com Larry


Oliver Super 55 Manual Steering Gear

IP: 71.141.234.134 Posted on June 10, 2012 at 01:52:22 PM by Frank

The ball and tube bearing assembly is rusted out on an Oliver Super 55 that we're working on. Are these parts available anywhere?

Re(1): Oliver Super 55 Manual Steering Gear

IP: 75.107.96.58 Posted on June 11, 2012 at 00:18:56 AM by Larry Harsin

Kent Gordon in Palestine TX has parted out several of these tractors. He might have a used one. 903-729-8349. Larry


Power Traction Hitch

IP: 67.85.220.249 Posted on June 9, 2012 at 07:12:07 PM by chris

Larry I am wondering why a power traction hitch off a 880 or 770 wouldnt fit on my 77?

Re(1): Power Traction Hitch

IP: 75.107.96.58 Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:47:55 PM by Larry Harsin

Because the 77 rear main frame doesn't have the mounting base for the hitch on the main frame. Larry

Re(2): Power Traction Hitch

IP: 67.85.220.249 Posted on June 10, 2012 at 06:41:40 PM by chris

The rockshaft frame bolts up though, right? Or are the holes different?

Re(3): Power Traction Hitch

IP: 75.104.160.54 Posted on June 11, 2012 at 00:16:42 AM by Larry Harsin

The rockshaft frame bolts up. The holes are the same. Larry


88 Motor Swap

IP: 50.41.32.3 Posted on June 5, 2012 at 11:48:27 AM by dusty

Is it possible to put a 292 chevy motor in an 88? what would it intail to do it?

Re(1): 88 Motor Swap

IP: 75.104.160.36 Posted on June 6, 2012 at 04:43:31 PM by Larry Harsin

It's doable. It takes a LOT of work. Larry


Oliver 77

IP: 166.182.3.221 Posted on June 5, 2012 at 08:21:27 AM by andrew

How much oil does an Oliver 77 rear end take?

Re(1): Oliver 77

IP: 75.104.160.54 Posted on June 6, 2012 at 04:42:37 PM by Larry Harsin

4 - 5 gal. Use #90 transmission lube. Larry


1655 diesel

IP: 66.113.39.208 Posted on June 4, 2012 at 08:30:39 PM by Loyd

I have a 73 1655 diesel tractor with a cab on it, and can't figure out where to check and add diff fluid? Looked all over! Looked in the book that I have (IT) driving me crazy

Re(1): 1655 diesel

IP: 99.196.64.57 Posted on June 4, 2012 at 09:39:27 PM by Larry Harsin

You need an Operator's Manual. The Shop Manual doesn't show that. You can get an Operator's Manuel from the museum in Charles City IA. 641-228-1099. The check point is behind the right rear axle on the main frame. It is a 3/8" pipe plug. You can add the oil on the top of the PTO housing. Use 80-90 transmission oil.


1800 oliver

IP: 173.86.2.135 Posted on June 4, 2012 at 04:25:35 PM by sam

I'm looking to buy an 1800 with hydra power. I was told some of these had a lot of hydraulic problems. What were the most common and what exactly was the hydra power system?

Re(1): 1800 oliver

IP: 75.107.96.58 Posted on June 4, 2012 at 09:31:08 PM by Larry Harsin

I'm not aware that 1800's had a lot of hydraulic problems. The hydra power was a direct drive/under drive shift on the go mechanism which gave you 12 forward speeds. Larry


Oliver 70 steering box bearings

IP: 70.169.109.180 Posted on June 3, 2012 at 10:35:35 AM by Dane Shultz

What are the worm gear bearing numbers used in the 1939 oliver 70 rc steering box. Mine are worn out and need to be replaced.

Re(1): Oliver 70 steering box bearings

IP: 99.196.64.57 Posted on June 4, 2012 at 05:10:08 PM by Larry Harsin

The bearing numbers are: Timken 15BA Cone, 16 Cup. Larry


550 gas

IP: 67.71.92.173 Posted on June 2, 2012 at 11:56:08 AM by jamie

Trying to take the pto gears out of my tractor to change a bearing. I can't get the spanner nut off and the manual says to "unstake the spanner nut". What exactly does that mean?

Re(1): 550 gas

IP: 75.107.96.58 Posted on June 4, 2012 at 07:25:01 AM by Larry Harsin

That hub has been hammered down into the groove on that shaft. Take a chisel and a hammer and get it to turn. It is a fine thread spanner nut. Larry


Oliver Id

IP: 74.212.17.198 Posted on June 2, 2012 at 11:47:12 AM by Rich

I have a gas model tractor with no identification except for 2 sets of numbers on the instrument panel support. The top # is 28-2102 and the bottom is 134-590-842. I can't seem to find anything to help..thanks

Re(1): Oliver Id

IP: 75.105.32.39 Posted on June 4, 2012 at 07:22:47 AM by Larry Harsin

The bottom number is the serial number. Larry


550 Oliver

IP: 12.238.226.58 Posted on June 1, 2012 at 01:08:11 PM by Debbie

Hi, I have a Oliver 550 gas tractor and can't find the serial number on it. When getting parts for it I use sn 79336 and up would like to know what year this tractor is. Also under the green paint is yellow paint my friend said it is an Industrial Oliver, it has a heavy front end loader and bucket on it. Thanks for any help you can give.

Re(1): 550 Oliver

IP: 75.105.32.39 Posted on June 4, 2012 at 07:21:21 AM by Larry Harsin

It sounds like it is an Industrial. On the cylinder head, up in the area of the thermostat, there should be a build date that will give you and idea of when it was built. That is about as close to a serial number as you are going to get. Larry


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