"Ask The Oliver Mechanic" - May, 2017 Archives


1965 1650 clutch dragging

Posted by Ted on May 29, 2017, 9:54 pm 24.165.216.36

The clutch on my 1650 is dragging, even with the linkage adjusted to the point it is almost riding on the throw out bearing. The clutch engages fully with the pedal maybe 1.5 inches off the floor. Would drilling another hole lower on the clutch release arm be an option?

Re: 1965 1650 clutch dragging

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 30, 2017, 7:48 am, in reply to "1965 1650 clutch dragging" 184.21.154.199

Possibly, but you might have something wrong on the inside on the pressure plate. You may have one of the fingers on the pressure plate that has either a broken bolt or linkage or something. Larry


white oliver 2 62 15

Posted by dan daniel on May 28, 2017, 10:10 am 71.9.191.148 Forgive me if i am in the wrong place, as i am new to tractors. I recently bought a 2/62/15 mighty hoe. The forward and reverse (hydro torque) have a lot of hesitation, especially reverse. I discovered the fluid very low, replenished it with the mercon/dextron and still no effect. I then replaced the filter, no effect. The shaft the pedals ride on is worn as well as the arm that runs from the pivot are to the actuator. They are all worn but i dont believe they are the cause.....any insight into this problem with the "hyrdo torque" transmittion would be very helpful.

Re: white oliver 2 62 15

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 29, 2017, 7:35 am, in reply to "white oliver 2 62 15" 184.21.154.199

The wear in the linkage sounds suspect. Otherwise, I can't say. Larry


no hydraulics or pto

Posted by chris on May 25, 2017, 12:38 pm 67.140.173.142 Larry, recently on the 1850 all the sudden lost all hydraulics and pto, pulled the lift housing and found the gear was almost stripped out was able to turn it around because the pump shaft only came into it about a inch is this correct??? reassembled and still no hydraulics and same grinding sound in between your feet any ideas?

Re: no hydraulics or pto

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 26, 2017, 8:11 am, in reply to "no hydraulics or pto " 184.21.154.199

Check to make sure the PTO shaft is turning when the engine is running. It may have stripped the splines on the PTO shaft that are in the engine fly wheel. If you have any more questions, call me. 712-362-2966 Larry


Oliver 1600 Plug and Plug Wires/Carb issues

Posted by Frank T on May 23, 2017, 8:03 pm 74.37.11.101

Father-in-law gave me Oliver 1600 gas engine tractor and I would like to know what are the proper plugs and plug wires for it. Also I tried rebuilding carb, but still not working right. Suggestions on a good place to get a rebuilt one. I live in NE PA. Thank you!

Re: Oliver 1600 Plug and Plug Wires/Carb issues

Posted by Dale H on May 23, 2017, 11:11 pm, in reply to "Oliver 1600 Plug and Plug Wires/Carb issues" 173.233.16.39

Treadwell Carb Co. Treadwell Ny. 607-829- 8321

Re: Oliver 1600 Plug and Plug Wires/Carb issues

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 29, 2017, 7:39 am, in reply to "Oliver 1600 Plug and Plug Wires/Carb issues" 184.21.154.199

You could try Valu-Bilt in Indianola, IA 888-828-3276. I like to use Champion N 11 Y non-resister spark plugs. Koreas Oliver has spark plug wires. 618-939-6681. Larry


1650 3 pt. bleeding off

Posted by Jon on May 25, 2017, 9:35 am 69.24.118.244

Larry, I have a 1650 that recently started bleeding off at the 3 pt arms. It holds fine while running, but will not hold over night. What seal or o-ring should look to replace?

Re: 1650 3 pt. bleeding off

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 26, 2017, 8:06 am, in reply to "1650 3 pt. bleeding off" 184.21.154.199

It is probably going to be the 3-pt. lift piston, the O ring and back-up washer. This condition you describe is not out of the ordinary and I would be reluctant to take it apart for that. Larry


770 diesel

Posted by Jay on May 23, 2017, 8:27 am 70.195.1.143

Did any of the 770 diesels have Moline fenders or were these put on later

Re: 770 diesel

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 24, 2017, 8:50 am, in reply to "770 diesel" 184.21.154.199

No! Not that I'm aware of. Larry


Oliver 60 row crop,

Posted by Timothy Buckner on May 23, 2017, 12:38 pm 75.170.144.57 Larry I am looking for the 2 felt seals for the front wheels on the Oliver 60 row crop Part number is H737 need four of them. Any ideas? Re: Oliver 60 row crop, Posted by Larry Harsin on May 25, 2017, 6:59 am, in reply to "Oliver 60 row crop," 184.21.154.199 Call O'Brien County Imp. 800-320-6224. Otherwise, you will have to make them. Larry


Oliver hydraulic oil

Posted by Rodney on May 19, 2017, 2:15 pm 68.116.66.246

I have a super 55 Gas tractor i changed the hydraulic fluid and when i added the required nine quarts, nothing on the dip stick, I added two more quarts slowly,nothing on the stick, Could it be leaking into the transmission?

Re: Oliver hydraulic oil

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 23, 2017, 8:24 am, in reply to "Oliver hydraulic oil " 184.21.154.199

Anything is possible. it has to be going someplace. Larry


engine rebuild

Posted by lee lamay on May 18, 2017, 7:46 am 174.78.142.130

we at fleming transportation have an older oliver and am looking for someone in my area, connecticut massachusets, vermont, to do an engine rebuild, any suggestions?

Re: engine rebuild

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 18, 2017, 9:16 am, in reply to "engine rebuild" 184.21.154.199

Call Landis Zimmerman at Ephrata, PA. 717-738-2573. Larry


Oliver 1800 hydraulic pump

Posted by Troy on May 17, 2017, 11:38 am 107.77.89.87

Hello, I got asked to help work on a friends 1800, he said all of his hydraulics are very sluggish not jerky due to low fluid just slow. So before I make the trek over to his home this weekend I wanted to build a pressure tester with a high pressure gauge. My question is what is the test port hole size on the hydraulic pump and is that the best way to get an accurate reading of the output pressure?

Re: Oliver 1800 hydraulic pump

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 18, 2017, 9:14 am, in reply to " Oliver 1800 hydraulic pump " 184.21.154.199

No. Just simply plumb the gage to a hydraulic coupling and plug the gage into the one of the cylinder outlets. That is all you need to do. Larry


oliver 1650 diesel stuck in reverse

Posted by steve mohr on May 17, 2017, 10:29 am 72.173.139.29

Hello. I've had my Oliver for 22 years. What a reliable work horse. The other day I was hooking up a implement and she got stuck in reverse. I took the shifter out and was able to inspect some of the gears and the shifter rails. No visible signs of damage, plenty of lubricant. My I.T. manual shows a exploded view of the transmission. I read on some web sites the reverse gear gets seized on the bushing. My questions are do you have a picture of the transmission and can the gear be accessed through the shifter plate and if you have any suggestions or tricks? Thank you, Steve Mohr, Shoshone, Idaho

Re: oliver 1650 diesel stuck in reverse

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 18, 2017, 9:11 am, in reply to "oliver 1650 diesel stuck in reverse" 184.21.154.199

I don't think the reverse gear is seized on the bushing, especially if the oil level is correct. I would be more inclined to look for wear in the shifting mechanism. Even possibly a loose shift fork. Larry

Re: oliver 1650 diesel stuck in reverse

Posted by Steve mohr on May 20, 2017, 9:52 pm, in reply to "Re: oliver 1650 diesel stuck in reverse" 72.173.139.29

I took the shifter cover off and found the rail that shifts into reverse had broke in half where the one of the notches is. It looks as if I can take the housing where the rails slide in and out off and pull the rail out. Thankyou for your advice.


super 77 tie rods

Posted by jason H on May 15, 2017, 5:43 pm 74.76.226.53

where could I find tie rod ends for a super 77 with a row crop front end?

Re: super 77 tie rods

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 16, 2017, 8:25 am, in reply to "super 77 tie rods" 184.21.154.199

Cal Korvis Olliver for these. 618-939-6681. Larry


1850 auxlaryy hydalics

Posted by Jim K. on May 14, 2017, 5:51 pm 174.219.25.150

When using aux hydraulics the supply and return both pressurize and the implement cannot be lowered. I have taken the hydralic plate out replaced orings and cleaned out cylinders and Pistons so everything moves inside the plate. It made no difference both auxillaries still presurize. Anybody have any ideas?

Re: 1850 auxlaryy hydalics

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 18, 2017, 9:08 am, in reply to "1850 auxlaryy hydalics" 184.21.154.199

Call me so we an talk about this. Larry


Super 55 with forklift

Posted by Ryan on May 12, 2017, 12:25 pm 209.159.249.29

I have a Super 55 with a KD manufacturing forklift. I need some help with identification. Here is what I have:

Tractor: Yellow, factory weights, with forklift ID number 15-0122 Serial 42071-518

Forklift: KD Manufacturing Model 0.5 Serial 0-1060 What exactly do I have here? Is this a factory forklift option? Factory Color?

Re: Super 55 with forklift

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 14, 2017, 7:05 am, in reply to "Super 55 with forklift" 184.21.154.199

Well, you have a 550 Industrial. Thus, the yellow paint. Most of the Industrials were painted yellow. As far as the Fork Lift, I don't know anything about it. I don't know if it was factory or if it was built by another company. Sorry. Larry


Oliver 550 Cooling System and Power Steering

Posted by Ed Haertel on May 8, 2017, 4:24 pm 184.5.108.246

I have a late '63 550 (2-44? - it once was painted yellow) diesel. Specification # 55-7208, SN 140 57X The cooling system has been overheating recently when using the bush hog and I'm taking it to my mechanic to see about cleaning the radiator, checking the thermostat and water pump. One source I read states that the 550 has a 4 pound pressure system, but there is no way the cap I have on the tractor is a pressure cap. It fits the filler, but only has a rubber gasket (no spring pressure release etc.). Looks like maybe my radiator was replaced with an earlier 55's non-pressure radiator, or would non-pressure be right for it? I also have a power steering system which leaks about a full quart per use. This is really recent (within the last week). Probably a hose leak, they are getting old. I replaced one of the booster cylinders last year (ouch!) and I don't know what type pump I have. It definitely is not a gear drive off the generator, there's no generator any longer, it has an alternator. I think it is a belt drive pump, but in my 70s and with a front loader to deal with, I'm going to let the mechanic fool with it. In both cases, I would like to have an idea of the damages up front if I have to replace the radiator and/or the power steering pump. Either one will certainly be less expensive than another tractor (the days of inexpensive good used tractors, like used cars, are gone). Thanks for any input. Ed

Re: Oliver 550 Cooling System and Power Steering

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 9, 2017, 6:59 am, in reply to "Oliver 550 Cooling System and Power Steering" 184.21.154.199

You are going to have to figure out what is going on. The radiator is going to have to be cleaned, probably. And a mechanic is going to have to figure out what is wrong with the hydraulic. Larry


1650 loader hydraulics leaking down

Posted by Brian Jones on May 7, 2017, 10:28 am 74.199.92.15

Good Morning Larry, I have a 1650 with a front end loader. The lift works fine, but when the bucket has a load in in it won't hold its position, it only takes 30 seconds or so for it to dump itself out. The local hydraulic shop checked out the cylinders and they look OK. I bought a shop manual to see what I could learn about the controls, but I was in way over my head with the technical aspects of the manual. Any dumbed down advice for a amateur? Thanks, Brian

Re: 1650 loader hydraulics leaking down

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 9, 2017, 6:55 am, in reply to "1650 loader hydraulics leaking down" 184.21.154.199

There are some thermal relief valves that need to be replaced. They are located on the cast iron lid for the hydraulic system right next to the control spools. You can determine which one it is by the outlet that doesn't hold pressure. Larry

Re: 1650 loader hydraulics leaking down

Posted by Brian Jones on May 20, 2017, 8:33 pm, in reply to "Re: 1650 loader hydraulics leaking down" 74.199.92.15

Thanks for the input Larry, Now I have it apart and have not found anybody online that has the thermal relief valves. Also I managed to break a connector off the solenoid switch. Any idea who might carry those parts? Thanks again, Brian


Oliver 88

Posted by Mark Hoop on May 6, 2017, 8:14 pm 192.182.185.66

Larry I want to remove the cast wheels on the front end. And use press steel rims do you know what hub assembly will fit this tractor. Thank you

Re: Oliver 88

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 9, 2017, 6:53 am, in reply to "Oliver 88 " 184.21.154.199

The same hub assembly that fits a 77 RC. Larry

Re: Oliver 88

Posted by mark hoop on May 9, 2017, 8:04 am, in reply to "Re: Oliver 88 " 74.142.213.242

Thank you for the info .


283 and 310 ?

Posted by Wesley Broyles on May 5, 2017, 4:16 pm 70.195.4.97

I have a late model 1655 diesel with a 283. I want to fix it up for pulling. 1. Is a 283 the same block as a 310? 2. Will a 6-354 perkins crank fit in a 283/310 block? 3. can you remove the sleeves and use the block for the cylinder like they did with the 302 to make the 320's If this isn't your area of expertise can you point me in the right direction

Re: 283 and 310 ?

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 8, 2017, 7:50 am, in reply to "283 and 310 ?" 184.21.154.199

I don't think they use the same block. The 2nd. question answer is, No. Question 3 is No. Larry


Oliver 880

Posted by Brian Polivka on May 5, 2017, 12:20 pm 174.197.37.100

Hello Larry, Was there a factory option for rear pressed steel rims on an 880? Or just cast centers? Thanks in advance.

Re: Oliver 880

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 8, 2017, 7:47 am, in reply to "Oliver 880" 184.21.154.199

Not that I know of. I haven't seen factory pressed steel wheels on an 880. Larry


232 diesel

Posted by Jerry Case on May 4, 2017, 5:06 pm 67.32.32.71

Larry, I have a 232 waukesha that runs but has a lot of blow by. I want to sell it to someone to be rebuilt and I don't know what would be a fair price to ask for it so I thought you would be the one to ask about this. It run good and I have video of it running just before I pulled it out of my backhoe. Like I said it had a lot of blow by and the oil pressure was good (around 25 psi when at 800 RPM's) so I'm sure the crank should be good without having to line bore it and it was not knocking. With this information I hope you can give me a fair appraisal to ask for it. I also have everything from another 232 but the block and the crank witch I scraped because it did spin a bearing but the head, injector pump, injectors, both manifolds, oil pan, oil pump,and valve cover are in good shape and I would like to sell all of these parts. If you know of someone who would buy all of this I would make them a race horse deal. So with all that said if you could help me with the for the motor and someone that would like to buy them I would be so thankful and i'm sure if anyone is looking for a 232 they would be too because we both know how hard these motors are to find. Thanks, Jerry

Re: 232 diesel

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 5, 2017, 7:35 am, in reply to "232 diesel" 184.21.154.199

Your engine is probably worth around $1000. Larry

Re: 232 diesel

Posted by Jerry Case on May 6, 2017, 9:59 pm, in reply to "Re: 232 diesel" 67.32.32.71

Thanks Larry that's what I thought it would be worth. Any idea who to contact to see if I could sell it and all the parts I have?

Re: 232 diesel

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 9, 2017, 7:07 am, in reply to "Re: 232 diesel" 184.21.154.199

You could contact Brian lags in Wisconsin 715-579-4070 or you could connect Tom at O'Brian County Imp. in Sheldon, IA 800-320-6224. Or you could put an ad in the Oliver collector magazines. For the HPOCA magazine, email: hpocaeditors@gmail.com For Oliver Heritage magazine: ads@oliverheritage.com Larry


1600 oliver

Posted by Wayne on May 4, 2017, 2:02 pm 50.51.120.12

How much oil pressure should a 1600 gas Oliver carry at idle ?

Re: 1600 oliver

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 5, 2017, 7:32 am, in reply to "1600 oliver" 184.21.154.199

About 20 - 30 psi. Larry


Oliver 1650 transmission fluid

Posted by Tom on May 4, 2017, 7:39 am 98.179.28.110

Lived in the city all my life. We bought an acreage and an Oliver 1650 came with it. Getting kind of late in the game to be learning about something entirely new but I'm trying. I did learn enough to be able to check fluid levels. Found the transmission fluid is low. What kind of fluid should I be adding to bring it up to the proper level. I imagine it's a simple question for someone that knows what they are doing but I don't. Thanks!

Re: Oliver 1650 transmission fluid

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 5, 2017, 7:31 am, in reply to "Oliver 1650 transmission fluid" 184.21.154.199

Use 80-90 GL5. Larry

Re: Oliver 1650 transmission fluid

Posted by Tom on May 7, 2017, 10:51 am, in reply to "Re: Oliver 1650 transmission fluid" 70.198.50.39

Thank you very much, Larry. I hate to be a pain but is there a brand or store chain that would be a good place to try? Thanks again for taking the time to help me out. I really appreciate it.

Re: Oliver 1650 transmission fluid

Posted by Bill Wagner on May 7, 2017, 4:05 pm, in reply to "Re: Oliver 1650 transmission fluid" 69.26.10.96

Any good auto parts store, farm equipment dealership or a Cenex will carry that gear lube.

Re: Oliver 1650 transmission fluid

Posted by Tom on May 8, 2017, 10:11 am, in reply to "Re: Oliver 1650 transmission fluid" 70.198.50.39

Thanks, Bill. I appreciate the response.


rear wheel weights

Posted by Jeffrey Wheeler on May 2, 2017, 6:09 pm 208.126.152.109

I recently purchased 4 wheel weights for my tractor noticing one has two cutout areas in the ring. what are the cutouts for and should this weight be put on a certain side or can it be bolted on in any type of configuration. Thank you for your advice Jeff

Re: rear wheel weights

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 3, 2017, 8:40 am, in reply to "rear wheel weights" 184.21.154.199

Those notches were for the latest style tractors. I really can't help you with more info. Call the FloydCo Museum in Charles City. Maybe they have some info. Larry


Oliver 2855 Articulating tractor

Posted by Bryson Dalrymple on May 1, 2017, 2:17 pm 71.42.245.110

Have found an Oliver 2855 Articulating Tractor. Funny thing is that I can not find any data on this tractor at all, or that it was ever made. What would it be worth?

Re: Oliver 2855 Articulating tractor

Posted by Larry Harsin on May 3, 2017, 8:35 am, in reply to "Oliver 2855 Articulating tractor" 184.21.154.199

I'm not surprised that you couldn't find anything. It wasn't a regular production tractor. I have no idea of what it may be worth. If it runs and you like it, try to buy it! Possibly the Floyd County Museum in Charles City might be able to help you with info. 641-228-1099. Larry


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