Tackometer not working

Posted by Scott Brady on October 27, 2017, 11:17 pm 50.36.75.140

Just got a Oliver 1600 I took the cable off the distributer where it .screws on to and put my drill on in reverse and the dial seems to work fine . I can feel something spinning around where it screws on to the distrubeter but it doesn't seem to want to spin the cable is there something in the hookup on the distrubeter that is broken?

Re: Tackometer not working

Posted by Larry Harsin on October 28, 2017, 8:04 am, in reply to "Tackometer not working" 172.242.140.109

The little gear drive could be stripped. Larry

White 2-70 oil pressure

Posted by Scott Sampson on October 27, 2017, 10:11 pm 174.230.143.183

I have a white 2-70 (family heirloom) that we recently had engine rebuilt for the second time. First rebuild the mechanic accidentally tore a piston ring when reinstalling and the engine needed overhauled a year later. Before the second rebuild while trying to determine the problem they figured it was a head gasket problem and poured gasket repair in the radiator to try and seal up the leak. Fast forward after changing the oil multiple times we finally had the engine torn down and found the real problem with the piston ring. After getting the tractor home from the second rebuild the oil pressure is only at 20 PSI . My father-in-law who is on the tractor since New swears that the tractor always ran at 40 psi. I have taking the gauge off blown the line with air and Tested the gauge which seems to be working fine with air pressure. The last time I started the tractor the gauge never lifted off of zero. could it be the oil pump is going bad or possibly the gauge? What should this tractor normally operate at for engine oil pressure?

Re: White 2-70 oil pressure

Posted by Larry Harsin on October 28, 2017, 8:02 am, in reply to "White 2-70 oil pressure " 172.242.140.109

Is it a gas or a diesel. The diesel carries more oil pressure than the gas. If it is a diesel, it should carry 35 to 45 lbs. If it is a gas, 25 to 35 lbs. If it is a gas, there is a pressure regulator valve on the front of the engine, right side, below the alternator. Take a 13/16th wrench to unscrew it. You will find a spring and plunger in there and the plunger may be stuck back. Larry

Re: White 2-70 oil pressure

Posted by Scott Sampson on October 29, 2017, 9:18 am, in reply to "Re: White 2-70 oil pressure " 174.230.135.243

Sorry I forgot to mention that it is a diesel. even after the rebuild it was only putting out 20 PSI seems awfully low

Re: White 2-70 oil pressure

Posted by Scott Sampson on October 31, 2017, 6:49 pm, in reply to "Re: White 2-70 oil pressure " 174.230.131.250

Does the diesel have a pressure regulator valve?

Oliver 70 Orchard Fenders

  Posted by Richard Dunbrack   on October 26, 2017, 6:38 pm 172.56.22.198

Hi Larry, I recently purchased an Oliver 70 Orchard . I am trying to find a set of fender points and wheel enclosures. I was told there was a guy fabricating them ? Any leads or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Rich Dunbrack Martha's Vineyard

Re: Oliver 70 Orchard Fenders

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 28, 2017, 7:54 am, in reply to "Oliver 70 Orchard Fenders" 172.242.140.109

The guy that is doing these is Jim Heaslip, 905-779-3919. He lives in Ontario, Canada. Larry

hydraulic systems on fleetline tractors

  Posted by Clifford Woody   on October 24, 2017, 3:39 pm 50.102.0.223

Do you know of anyplace where one could take a fleetline or three digit oliver hydraulic system and have it completely rebuilt ? My son and I have seven at present. It is a coincidence, but my Dad purchased an Oliver 60 on January 20th, 1945. We just finished restoring it. Thanks CW

Re: hydraulic systems on fleetline tractors

  Posted by Kevin   on October 26, 2017, 6:07 am, in reply to "hydraulic systems on fleetline tractors" 74.36.87.171

A friend of mine does that http://www.oliverhydraulicpump.com/

Re: hydraulic systems on fleetline tractors

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 26, 2017, 8:20 am, in reply to "Re: hydraulic systems on fleetline tractors" 172.242.140.109

I have done them, but I don't want any more jobs than I already have. I am cutting back on some of these jobs. Larry

550 drawbar

  Posted by b   on October 23, 2017, 2:57 pm 209.174.184.135

Someone that had my 550 before me had drilled in where you put the special pins in for the drawbar. Is there a way to fix it so i can use the special pins?

Re: 550 drawbar

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 24, 2017, 7:40 am, in reply to "550 drawbar" 172.242.140.109

Te bracket that holds the drawbar to the tractor. Rework it so that it will hold the pins. Or, you can get a different bracket. Call Kent Gordon in Palestine, TX. He may have a used one to sell. He has parted out a lot of 550's. 903-729-8349 Larry

770 oil pressure at start up

  Posted by John Ostrowski on October 23, 2017, 4:35 am 174.255.192.149

I just rebuilt my 770 gas engine. I had one of the oliver Low normal colored gauges in the side of the block. When cranking over with the starter I could only get the gauge to flutter.Is it possible to get 10 lbs. pressure while cranking? Should I pull start? I used an oil preluber that made the gauge bounce a little. I am concerned about having enough oil pressure at startup. What is the best way to get it started?

Re: 770 oil pressure at start up

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 24, 2017, 7:34 am, in reply to "770 oil pressure at start up" 172.242.140.109

Just ignore all of those things. Just go ahead and start it, it will be fine. Larry

1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end

  Posted by Pat Walsh   on October 22, 2017, 8:04 am 207.32.55.182

Just got this tractor. Gentleman bought at a sale. Tractor had been sitting quite a while. Got rust problem fixed on fuel system. Was going to change all the fluids, checking rear end and emptied over a gallon of fluid just taking out check plug. Filled hydraulics to full, ran for a hour, which resulted in low hydraulic oil and high rear end fluid again. From what I've read I must have an issue with my hydraulic pump. I'm somewhat mechanical, can I change this myself and how exactly to I access the pump? Thank You

Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end

Posted by 90 % ret'd on October 22, 2017, 12:52 pm, in reply to "1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end" 172.4.207.196

Why don't you contact the Floyd Co. Museum and order a shop manual? A lot easier to refer to than e-mails.

500 Gilbert Street

Charles City, IA 50616

Phone - 641-228-1099

Fax - 641-228-1157

Email - fchs@fiai.net

Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 22, 2017, 1:50 pm, in reply to "Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end" 172.242.140.109

You'll have to remove the hydraulic system from the tractor to access the pump. However, when you remove the pan from the hydraulic system, check the pan and make sure it doesn't have a hole or holes. This could be the problem. Otherwise, it is the pump seal. Larry

Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end

  Posted by Pat Walsh   on October 22, 2017, 6:34 pm, in reply to "Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end" 207.32.55.182

Ok. Thank You. Thinking I'll let me neighbor take care of that. He does tractor repair and has worked on Olivers. Going to change engine oil this weekend. What do you recommend for oil in NW Iowa? How many quarts do I need for oil change? Thanks Again

Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 24, 2017, 7:29 am, in reply to "Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end" 172.242.140.109

I recommend 15-40. Larry

Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end

  Posted by Pat   on October 24, 2017, 8:45 am, in reply to "Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end" 206.72.54.193

Thank You. How many qts will I need?

Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end

  Posted by Pat   on October 23, 2017, 9:22 am, in reply to "Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end" 206.72.54.193

What can I expect to spend on having pump replaced?

Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 24, 2017, 7:32 am, in reply to "Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end" 172.242.140.109

If you ar going to hire it done, parts, labor and everything, probably $1000. Larry

Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end

  Posted by Pat   on October 24, 2017, 9:19 am, in reply to "Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end" 206.72.54.193

OK. Thanks

Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end

  Posted by Pat   on October 24, 2017, 10:00 am, in reply to "Re: 1650 dumping hydraulic oil in rear end" 174.219.130.180

What should I get for a pump and where do recommend I get it? Thanks

Wire coming out of the side of the distributor

  Posted by Kenneth Johnston on October 16, 2017, 7:22 pm 107.77.241.9

Where does the wire that comes out of the side of the distributor hook to . There's only one wire coming out of it.

Re: Wire coming out of the side of the distributor

  Posted by Larry HarsinL   on October 18, 2017, 7:56 am, in reply to "Wire coming out of the side of the distributor" 172.242.140.109

It hooks to the coil. You didn't say what model Oliver you have. Larry

550 oil pan

  Posted by Mark   on October 15, 2017, 8:40 pm 99.21.222.61

Larry do you have a oil pan for a 550? Thank you.

Re: 550 oil pan

  Posted by Larry HarsinL   on October 16, 2017, 8:17 am, in reply to "550 oil pan" 172.242.140.109

No. I do not have one. Check with Kent Gordon in Palestine, TX. 903-729-8349. Larry

Oliver 550 conversion to altrenator

Posted by LARRY on October 14, 2017, 5:58 pm 98.161.35.8

Will the generator idiot light and fuel gage still work when I change the polarity to negative ground? I know I have to change terminals on the coil.

Is there anything else I need?

Can I use a standard 1 wire alternator, or do I need to find a mini that provides 35 amps?

Thanks for your help.

Ca

Re: Oliver 550 conversion to altrenator

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 16, 2017, 8:15 am, in reply to "Oliver 550 conversion to altrenator" 172.242.140.109

You should be able to use the standard one wire alternator. Larry

1850 Diesel

Posted by John Gallant on October 12, 2017, 5:48 pm 142.68.117.9

Hi Larry, First want to say your expertise and information on here is priceless. I have a 1850 with loader that I use on a daily basis. I've had it 5 years now and its proven itself as a reliable, strong, very easy on fuel tractor. Going at road speed and applying left brake, I get a single dry solid clunk sound coming from brake/bull gear area. I get same clunk if pushing dirt with loader and putting rear wheels under load. Again, only clunks once and will not do it again unless I put tractor in reverse and back up, then forward again. Sometime on road, shifting the hydra power from low to high in 6th gear is enough torque to create the clunk. Sounds like a locked up brake that would release under pressure but its not locked up or dragging. Any ideas?? Also just starting last winter, when raising snowblower with 3PT, it would cause my chute to rotate with cylinder plumbed in to I believe right side remotes. not just a little bit but would extend cylinder half to 3 quarter stroke. Never did this in 5 years till last winter. I have an I&T service manual but haven't been able to pinpoint these issues yet. Thanks in advance

Re: 1850 Diesel

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 14, 2017, 8:21 am, in reply to "1850 Diesel" 172.242.140.109

I would take that brake apart and clean it up. Make sure the actuator springs are good. If they are stretched, replace them. The hydraulic issue is a common complaint, sort of the nature of the beast.

Re: 1850 Diesel

  Posted by John Gallant   on October 14, 2017, 2:08 pm, in reply to "Re: 1850 Diesel" 142.169.78.253

Thanks larry, I did take brakes all apart, cleaned and polished steel balls and pockets in actuator plates. Springs look good and tight. Going from reverse to forward to cause the clunk will happen even if I don't apply brakes. It only does this clunk when wheels are torqued like pushing dirt or letting clutch out a little quick

Re: 1850 Diesel

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 16, 2017, 8:13 am, in reply to "Re: 1850 Diesel" 172.242.140.109

You will have to keep looking...... It could be the U-bolts that hold the axle hubs to the axle. Larry

Re: 1850 Diesel

  Posted by John Gallant   on October 16, 2017, 9:40 am, in reply to "Re: 1850 Diesel" 142.169.78.154

Thanks Larry

1964 770 power steering fluid

  Posted by John Ostrowski   on October 11, 2017, 7:02 pm 104.8.53.111

What is the correct power steering fluid for my 1964 770? The manual says #10 motor oil or type A transmission fluid. Type A is no longer available and I don't know what the substitute would be. There are so many kinds of Dexron. I was thinking of using Valvoline power steering fluid. What do you think would be the way to go? I drained the reservore but old fluid is still in the front steering unit and the rear upper unit. It is not contaminated so I wasn't planning on draining it any further. Thanks for your input.

Re: 1964 770 power steering fluid

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 14, 2017, 8:16 am, in reply to "1964 770 power steering fluid" 172.242.140.109

Use ATF or 10 wt. motor oil as the book says. The power steering fluid will probably be fine also. Larry

1967 Oliver 1650 Gas Burned Exhaust Valves

  Posted by Ted V.   on October 10, 2017, 12:14 am 76.188.149.11

Was wondering if you have any tips for preventing burned exhaust valves? All cylinders except for #3 have good compression-155-165psi. #3 only has 90psi. I put a few squirts of oil in in and tested it again, came up to 103psi. Looks like I will have to pull the head. Thanks for your time.

Re: 1967 Oliver 1650 Gas Burned Exhaust Valves

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 10, 2017, 7:48 am, in reply to "1967 Oliver 1650 Gas Burned Exhaust Valves" 172.242.140.109

One thing is to make sure your exhaust is covered when your actor sits outside. My experience with the 1650's is that they seldom have valve problems. Proper ignition timing is very important. Larry

1967 Oliver diesel  

Posted by J ashe   on October 9, 2017, 10:26 am 71.30.42.63

I need to know where to get fuel injectors for tractor when I search for them it only showed gas

Re: 1967 Oliver diesel

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 10, 2017, 7:44 am, in reply to "1967 Oliver diesel" 172.242.140.109

Check with Central Fuel Injection in Estherville IA 712-362-4200. Larry

Stiff clutch

  Posted by Nate   on October 7, 2017, 9:52 pm 97.116.157.230

Hi Larry, My White 2-155 has a hard stiff clutch. The tractor shifts fine and all gears work but the clutch is hard to depress. Is there any fix for this?

Re: Stiff clutch

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 9, 2017, 9:31 am, in reply to "Stiff clutch" 172.242.140.109

I don't think so. Check in your Operator's Manual. That 2-155 is a big tractor! Larry

1939 Oliver 70 transmission

  Posted by Tony McElhinny   on October 7, 2017, 6:25 pm 24.129.249.11

Larry, did the 1939 70 come with 6 speed transmission with 5 & 6 blocked off for steel wheels or was it just a 4 speed? Thanks

Re: 1939 Oliver 70 transmission

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 9, 2017, 9:30 am, in reply to "1939 Oliver 70 transmission " 172.242.140.109

Yes, it did! Larry

Year and model of Oliver

Posted by Jonathan Coulimore on October 7, 2017, 5:44 pm 71.210.45.139

Does anyone know what Model and year this Oliver is:

On the date plate it say: Model 47-1548 -- Serial number 157093-721

We looked in tractordata.com but were unable to find any model like that.

appreciate the help. It is a 6 cylinder gas, with flat top fenders with single lights in each. wide front end which is fwd of the front of the tractor. 15.5 x 38 tires. Air cleaner on left side and with small top. Muffler to the rear of the air cleaner. 2 range transmission with 6 fwd and 2 rev. Any help would be appreciated

Re: Year and model of Oliver

  Posted by 90 % ret'd   on October 7, 2017, 7:58 pm, in reply to "Year and model of Oliver" 172.4.207.196

The S/N is 157093, drop the last three digits as they designate the transmission and final drive ratios. My guess is that it is a 1965 1650 gas tractor. I would suggest you contact the Floyd County Museum, they can give you the details with the S/N you have. Link below. http//www.floydcountymuseum.org/

Re: Year and model of Oliver

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 9, 2017, 9:29 am, in reply to "Re: Year and model of Oliver" 172.242.140.109

It looks that way to me, too. The Museum is a great place to ask this question. Larry

oliver

  Posted by Thom Martin   on October 6, 2017, 1:26 pm 98.198.255.236

I have a oliver tractor and it has a decal on one side that says 1450. I would like to know where the serial numbers that are stamped into the casting, or where ever they put them so I can find out what model is for sure.

Re: oliver

Posted by Thom Martin on October 6, 2017, 1:30 pm, in reply to "oliver" 98.198.255.236

it has a number plate under the steering wheel with model and serial #'s, and they don't seem to cross to any oliver.The numbers are Model 645 22001 serial 829 944

I have photos, but not sure how to send them on here. Any help would be great. Thom

Re: oliver

Posted by 90 % ret'd on October 6, 2017, 6:17 pm, in reply to "Re: oliver" 172.4.207.196

Oliver Wheel Tractors Model 1465

Year Starting Serial Number

1973 827183

1974 827580

1975 839424

From s/n lookup on Y,T site, Looks as though it could be a 1465 from 1974

Re: oliver

  Posted by Thom Martin   on October 6, 2017, 11:05 pm, in reply to "Re: oliver" 98.198.255.236

Thats what makes me think the data plate does not belong on this tractor. Mine is a 4 cyl diesel, and has a 24 volt starter. As best as I can tell the 1465 is a gas model and a 6 volt system. Are there any numbers on the engine, or trans that could tell me for sure what model this one is? Thanks, Thom

Re: oliver

  Posted by 90 % ret'd   on October 7, 2017, 2:57 pm, in reply to "Re: oliver" 172.4.207.196

I don't think that there was ever a 1465 gasoline tractor. You might post on http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewforum.php?f=22&sid=9f2597b4e3f93a31549e70ed605b2fa1 Lots of Oliver collectors there.

Re: oliver

  Posted by 90 % ret'd   on October 7, 2017, 3:13 pm, in reply to "Re: oliver" 172.4.207.196

Diesel only, see info on the link below. http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/6/9/697-oliver-1465.html

Re: oliver

Posted by Thom Martin on October 7, 2017, 7:50 pm, in reply to "Re: oliver" 98.198.255.236

Mine has a 24 volt starter, and the 1465 shows to have a 12 volt starter. I still would like to know if there are any numbers on the engine, trans, rear end that would verify that this is a 1465? I would be happy to send you a couple photos if you could tell from that. When I got the tractor years ago it came with one decal on the hood that said Oliver, and one on the headlight housing that has 1450. They both have a lot of the same features, but the differences have me wondering. Let me know if you would like a photo, or two. Thanks, Thom

Re: oliver

Posted by 90 % ret'd on October 7, 2017, 8:17 pm, in reply to "Re: oliver" 172.4.207.196

I have been away to long to give you much help I would suggest you contact the Floyd County Museum at Charles City IA (link is below) as they have the best records. The other two links are sources for Fiat Built tractor parts

http://www.floydcountymuseum.org/ http://www.agpartsfirst.com/ http://www.importtractorparts.net/

Re: oliver

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 9, 2017, 9:48 am, in reply to "Re: oliver" 172.242.140.109

We hope the Floyd Co. Museum was able to help you in your quest. My wife (our computer operator) has been having some health problems and we just didn't get to this question. The Fiat Oliver engines were a bit different than the Oliver Waukesha engines. We hope you ordered an Operator's Manual from the Museum. There is a lot of info about your tractor in the Manual. Larry & Sandra

cockshutt 1450 hydraulic issues

Posted by Brian O'Grady on October 4, 2017, 7:23 am 174.91.50.77

Hello.....I just purchased an Cockshutt 1450 with bucket

Theres little to no hydraulic movement to either the bucket nor the 3 point

previous owner (friend) just installed new hydraulic pump....I just bought a manual

we are transmission / torque converter re builders.....hoping you can point me to where to start troubleshooting

Thanks, Brian

Re: cockshutt 1450 hydraulic issues

Posted by Larry Harsin on October 9, 2017, 9:35 am, in reply to "cockshutt 1450 hydraulic issues" 172.242.140.109

First make sure it has the correct fluids in it's system. Make sure the hydraulic filter is not plugged or installed incorrectly. Larry

770 hydraulic pump center plate

Posted by Luke on October 3, 2017, 4:17 pm 97.33.97.62

Larry I was wondering if you or someone you know might have a good used center plate laying around for a 770 hyd pump rather than buying brand new

Re: 770 hydraulic pump center plate

Posted by Larry Harsin on October 9, 2017, 8:14 am, in reply to "770 hydraulic pump center plate " 172.242.140.109

I don't have one. As I'm sure you are finding out, finding one of these is really hard. Larry

Hydra Power on a 1965 Oliver 1850

  Posted by Ron Hardesty   on October 2, 2017, 8:16 am 66.244.79.137

Larry Hi:

I have a 1965 Oliver 150 Diesel tractor. It runs fine in direct drive but when you shift it into hydro drive it will continue to move for a few minuets then stop. You can then shift it into direct and it will move just fine. Is this the sprag Clutch going out? If so how hard is it to get parts to rebuild the whole hyrapower unit while you have it out. I also assume that you have to pull the engine to get the hyrdapower unit out. Is that correct. Thank You Ron Hardesty

Re: Hydra Power on a 1965 Oliver 1850

Posted by Larry Harsin on October 2, 2017, 10:15 am, in reply to "Hydra Power on a 1965 Oliver 1850" 172.242.140.109

Yes. The engine and hydra power will have to be removed from the tractor to replace the sprag clutch which is not holding. Before doing this, I would drain the fluid from the hydra power and put in type A ATF. Dexron and Mercon are the 2 replacements for type A. Larry

Clutch Stuck on 1850 Oliver

Posted by Ron Hardesty on October 2, 2017, 8:12 am 66.244.79.137

Larry Hi:

My father and I have bought a 1967 Oliver 1850 Diesel. I has set for about 5 years. The tractor starts a runs fine. The only problem is that the clutch is stuck. Do you have any suggestions as to how to unstick the clutch with out having to split it.

Thank You Ron Hardesty

Re: Clutch Stuck on 1850 Oliver

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 2, 2017, 10:09 am, in reply to "Clutch Stuck on 1850 Oliver" 172.242.140.109

I would jack up one rear wheel, put it in 6th. gear, then with the clutch pedal depressed, rock the jacked up wheel. Larry

1963 1800 Cocksutt diesel with hydro shift trans

  Posted by Doug & Lori Alder   on October 1, 2017, 5:44 pm 207.228.78.104

Hello, my old tractor transmission only works in hydro mode not direct any more, has oil in it but trans filter won't get hot

Re: 1963 1800 Cocksutt diesel with hydro shift trans

  Posted by Larry Harsin  on October 2, 2017, 10:06 am, in reply to "1963 1800 Cocksutt diesel with hydro shift trans" 172.242.140.109

The direct drive clutch is not engaging do to worn parts or a Stuck regulator valve. Larry

Motor skipping

Posted by J ash on October 1, 2017, 1:45 pm 69.40.90.183

I was harrowing and tractor went to missing on one cylinder it's an Oliver 1550 diesel it's blowing white smoke seems to be number 4 cylinder

Re: Motor skipping

  Posted by Larry Harsin   on October 2, 2017, 10:01 am, in reply to "Motor skipping" 172.242.140.109

I would suspect that it has a stuck exhaust valve. Remove the valve cover and see if this is the case. It may have a displaced push rod. If the valve is stuck open, try to get it closed and then put W-D 40 on the valve stem and tap it and try to get it freed up. Larry

1939 Oliver 70

  Posted by Dale hilliard   on September 30, 2017, 1:18 pm 97.41.65.17

Does a 1939 Oliver 70 have all six gears installed, or does it inky have the four gears installed? It is four now. Owner would like to have all six if they are there. Thanks Dale H

Re: 1939 Oliver 70

Posted by Larry Harsin on October 2, 2017, 10:03 am, in reply to "1939 Oliver 70" 172.242.140.109

It depends on how the tractor was ordered. It could be either way. I would remove the power lift and look in the transmission and see what is wrong. Larry

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