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Wanted:310 parts
IP: 67.36.241.104 Posted on October 18, 2004 at 06:15:21 PM by John Wilson
I'm looking for a complete 310ci. diesel engine for my Super 88 pullin tractor. I don't need a good engine cuz I'm going to rebuild it with oversized pistons. I was just wandering if anyone has one for sale. I have a 265ci engine out of an 88 if anyone would like to buy or trade for it. Thankyou John Wilson (740-659-9338)
Re(1): Wanted:310 parts
IP: 67.2.248.212 Posted on October 18, 2004 at 10:53:05 PM by Larry Harsin
I don't have a 310. Larry
88 GOVERNOR
IP: 216.176.64.18 Posted on October 18, 2004 at 12:37:49 PM by DG
I need a complete governor assy. including spring and linkage for a 88 Would you have this or where can I get it? Thanks in advance!!!
Re(1): 88 GOVERNOR
IP: 67.2.248.92 Posted on October 19, 2004 at 08:27:20 AM by Larry Harsin
I have the governor and the spring, but not the linkage. If you want this, email me. Larry
1957 super 55
IP: 66.236.228.11 Posted on October 16, 2004 at 01:22:34 AM by butch coulter
where would you find a new camshaft? thank you butch coulter
Re(1): 1957 super 55
IP: 67.2.248.1 Posted on October 18, 2004 at 08:34:14 AM by Larry Harsin
Call Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. He may have a used one. Another place to check is Dale Wilson in Ohio. Phone 740-659-1108. Larry
1650 Intake Valve Seat
IP: 216.190.67.27 Posted on October 15, 2004 at 10:28:13 PM by Steve Merritt
The intake valve seats in the head of my 1650 w/ direct injection are bad. Since they are non-replacable, can they be machined out and new ones installed? If so, do you have any information or a part number for new seats? If not, what do you recommend doing? As always, thanks for your assistance.
Re(1): 1650 Intake Valve Seat
IP: 69.179.8.115 Posted on October 16, 2004 at 07:06:00 AM by Ron
Take the head to a trusted large machine shop that has Serdi machines. They can machine the head and install inserts. The valves will also have to be reground/replaced. It's important that the correct equipment is used as the resulting seat must be concentric with the valve guide. Discuss costs with them first. This is not going to be cheap.
Re(2): 1650 Intake Valve Seat
IP: 216.190.67.86 Posted on October 16, 2004 at 11:06:50 AM by Steve Merritt
My machinist can do this, but he wants me to find the seat inserts for him. Can you identify a suitable seat insert that works for this application?
Re(3): 1650 Intake Valve Seat
IP: 69.179.8.115 Posted on October 16, 2004 at 12:34:27 PM by Ron
Any machinist that has a Serdi knows where to find them. Valve seats are a commodity item; the head is machined to accept one of the correct size (based on valve size and depth), the seat is inserted, and then the valves, if salvageable, are ground to meet the seat. If your guy doesn't know where to get them then it sounds like he is going to be using a hand drill, drill press, or milling machine. If so, the repair will not be satisfactory.
Re(4): 1650 Intake Valve Seat
IP: 67.2.248.1 Posted on October 18, 2004 at 08:30:34 AM by Larry Harsin
I agree with the info that Ron has given you. This is not an uncommon thing. Most automotive machine shops have done this and they will have the seats. Sorry for the delay in answering, we have been gone for a few days. Larry
Super 55 hydraulic
IP: 198.50.63.15 Posted on October 15, 2004 at 12:23:22 PM by Roy Fleming
where can I get the filter for the hydraulic system. Also, I live in Ohio, can I use 10W-30 for the hydraulucs, transmission and crankcase. I do not run the tractor a lot in the winter>
Re(1): Super 55 hydraulic
IP: 67.2.248.1 Posted on October 18, 2004 at 08:25:56 AM by Larry Harsin
You can get a filter from Maibach Tractor 800-808-9932. You can use 10w30 as you say, but 80-90 would be better in the transmission. 10w30 would work in the other 2. Larry
Oliver 550 Power Steering Solution
IP: 68.42.145.248 Posted on October 14, 2004 at 10:28:20 PM by Patrick
A while back, I called Larry about tracking down a new power steering pump for my Oliver 550. He sent me towards Tom at O'Brien Equipment, who had one, but wanted $500 for it. I kind of thought that a steep price for a $3,000 tractor, so I got the thinking about ways to solve it. A friend of mine brought over a power steering pump that was rumored to have been from a 6 cyl Ford Fairmont. We were both pleasantly surprised to see that the hydraulic lines screwed in perfectly and all we needed to do was make a couple pieces of steel for a bracket. Before, I could hardly turn the wheel when the tractor was sitting on asphalt and credited that to the loader. With this new pump, the wheel whips side to side faster and easier than my Ford truck. Thanks for your help, Larry. I hope that tidbit of information might be useful for someone else.
Re(1): Oliver 550 Power Steering Solution
IP: 69.179.8.115 Posted on October 16, 2004 at 07:09:41 AM by Ron
Thanks for the info on your creative solution. As prices for parts for these tractors get more ridiculous, solutions like yours become more valuable.
Oliver 550 Loader
IP: 68.42.145.248 Posted on October 14, 2004 at 10:13:47 PM by Patrick
I've got an Oliver 550 with a 588? (not sure about the model number) loader on it. One of the lift cylinders is leaking really bad. I picked up a new seal kit from my local Agco/White dealer and set to it. When I got the cylinder free and unscrewed the end cap, it looks a lot different than any other cylinder I've seen before. I am used to an end cap that is the only thing holding the cylinder together. In this case, I have a nut like deal that screws not onto the cylinder, but an inner cylinder that actually has the rod wiper on it. This inner cylinder threads into the outer tuber starting about a quarter inch inside the the outer tube. An O ring fills the first quarter inch of the space between the two cylinders and is what the nut presses against. What I can't figure out is how to get that inner cylinder out. It has no notches or any other useful item to grip onto to crank it out of the main tube. Does anyone have any experience with this type of cylinder and have any suggestions?
Re(1): Oliver 550 Loader
IP: 67.2.248.1 Posted on October 18, 2004 at 08:18:11 AM by Larry Harsin
Unscrew the nut and gently tap the inner bearing back and you will find a snap ring inside the cylinder barrel. After you remove the snapring, you will be able to take the cylinder apart. Larry
1952 88 standard Diesel
IP: 4.240.198.148 Posted on October 14, 2004 at 09:54:28 PM by Max
I am looking for a clutch shaft pilot bushing Part # 1K-132 also am interested in putting a PTO and Hyd on this tractor could you help me with any or all? If so how much $$$ thanks
Re(1): 1952 88 standard Diesel
IP: 67.2.248.1 Posted on October 18, 2004 at 08:14:45 AM by Larry Harsin
Yes. I can help you. Give me a call at 712-362-2966. Larry
12 volt conversion
IP: 66.43.243.187 Posted on October 14, 2004 at 10:33:21 AM by John Calvin
I would like to convert a 1944 RC70 to a 12 volt system. Is there a kit available? If so where could I find one. Thank you.
Re(1): 12 volt conversion
IP: 67.2.248.1 Posted on October 18, 2004 at 08:13:00 AM by Larry Harsin
No, there isn't a kit. You will have to get a 12 volt generator and a voltage regulator. The starter you have will work o.k. A 12 volt generator from a late 50' early 60's Chevrolet will work. Larry Re(2): 12 volt conversion
IP: 66.43.243.187 Posted on October 19, 2004 at 12:34:27 PM by John Calvin
Thank you for the information. I think your web site is great!!!
Oliver 7300 combine
IP: 64.12.116.14 Posted on October 14, 2004 at 08:16:55 AM by Joe
Having problems with the transmission jumping out of 3rd gear. Any ideas of what to look for.
Re(1): Oliver 7300 combine
IP: 68.1.213.225 Posted on October 17, 2004 at 07:36:41 PM by julmer
As third is probably the one used most in the field it has been shifted into and out of the most. If you are lucky your linkages have worn and you are not shoving the gear all the way over and it is wearing on the edge and jumping out. Check for worn pins and over sized holes leaving enough slack where you are not getting it all the way back in gear. This is the easiest and cheapest. If not here, your gears have worn internally or the shift yoke bent and not moving stuff plumb over which involves looking into the gearbox. Lots of luck! Jerry
Re(2): Oliver 7300 combine
IP: 67.2.248.1 Posted on October 18, 2004 at 08:10:12 AM by Larry Harsin
We have been gone. Jerry's answer sounds like a good probability. Larry
1650 firing order
IP: 198.81.26.10 Posted on October 13, 2004 at 01:08:45 PM by mike mercer
Larry, I enjoy your site very much. I have a manual ordered for my 1968 1650 diesel. In the meantime I need to find out the firing order and what to set the valves on for the Waukesha 283 engine. Thanks a lot.
Re(1): 1650 firing order
IP: 67.2.248.67 Posted on October 13, 2004 at 11:46:27 PM by Larry Harsin
The firing order is 1 5 3 6 2 4. Set the valves on 10 and 18. Larry
Re(1): 1655 firing order
IP: 216.146.250.11 Posted on October 19, 2004 at 01:01:28 AM by shawn
do you also have the 1655 order as well?
Re(2): 1655 firing order
IP: 67.2.248.92 Posted on October 19, 2004 at 08:56:52 AM by Larry Harsin
It is the same as the 1650. Larry
550 engine and parts availability
IP: 69.156.11.244 Posted on October 13, 2004 at 01:03:00 AM by Brent Crooks
Larry, I have the oppertunity to buy a Oliver 550 in very good shape. I was wondering whether parts and engin rebuild kits are readily available still. Sorry but I am not sure what year it is. I am also looking at a 1974 Oliver 1365 4 wheel drive unit. Are parts also readily available?
Re(1): 550 engine and parts availability
IP: 67.2.242.19 Posted on October 13, 2004 at 07:43:36 AM by Larry Harsin
The parts availability for the 550 is good. The 1365 parts availability is not as plentiful as the 550. The 1365 was built by Fiat in Italy. Larry
Oliver 1650 trans shaft
IP: 64.132.226.246 Posted on October 12, 2004 at 06:58:40 PM by jimbo
The shaft on my 1650 that carries the chain sprocket coupler is very sloppy. How hard is it to replace the shaft and sprocket? Are parts available?
Re(1): Oliver 1650 trans shaft
IP: 67.2.242.19 Posted on October 13, 2004 at 07:34:55 AM by Larry Harsin
It's a major procedure. Parts are available. Call Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Larry
1850 hyd. lever
IP: 206.147.20.12 Posted on October 11, 2004 at 07:49:28 PM by Paul
Hi Larry, I am just finishing up the restoration on my dads 1850 oliver and have a quick quetion. This tractor has dual hdydralics and the inside lever has spring return to center one way but not the other. Is there someing i can do to get this lever to return to center from both ways? Thanks Paul
Re(1): 1850 hyd. lever
IP: 67.2.249.15 Posted on October 12, 2004 at 07:40:34 AM by Larry Harsin
The valve spool has a centering spring, however, I don't think your spring is broken. There may be a snap ring that secures that spring, out of it's groove. You may be able to get at that by removing the plate on the back of the top cover. It is held on by about 5 cap screws. The plate is approx. 3" x 6 ". Remove that plate and look and see if something is out of place or gone. Possibly it is even a broken snap ring. Larry
1850
IP: 64.12.116.14 Posted on October 10, 2004 at 09:17:33 PM by andy
Larry thanks for the info on o'brians. On the cam and crank gear are there marks on them to line them up for timing thanks.
Re(1): 1850
IP: 67.2.249.38 Posted on October 10, 2004 at 11:13:51 PM by Larry Harsin
Yes, there are. Larry
super 55 steering
IP: 66.236.228.11 Posted on October 9, 2004 at 09:34:46 PM by butch coulter
i posted message about my 1957 super 55 and i forgot to ask what other tractors use the saginaw steering box that would fit my tractor thank you
Re(1): super 55 steering
IP: 67.2.242.47 Posted on October 10, 2004 at 00:09:07 AM by Larry Harsin
Just the early 550's. Larry
Re(2): super 55 steering
IP: 68.1.213.225 Posted on October 12, 2004 at 10:44:39 AM by julmer
Re: Other tractors-if you go off brand you might check 601-901 Fords 1957 to 1964. Alexander Tractor parts in Winnsboro, Tx salvages Fords and New Hollands and helped me with a cratered steering unit on a Super 55. We had one on a Vick's Hi-Trac sprayer and the ford box bolted right up.
super 55 steering
IP: 66.236.228.11 Posted on October 9, 2004 at 06:20:50 PM by butch coulter
on my 1957 super 55 the steering pretty much just quit steering so i took it apart and here is what i found. the bearings at the bottom was gone and the one above the ball block is gone to. the sectors looks good. what do i do now about parts where do i find the bearings and is there anything else i need to look at while i have the box apart. thank you
Re(1): super 55 steering
IP: 67.2.242.47 Posted on October 10, 2004 at 00:07:52 AM by Larry Harsin
Call Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Tom will tell you if you can get parts for it. Otherwise, you will have to get a rebuilt unit. Larry
Super 55 Runs Very Lean
IP: 4.14.229.178 Posted on October 9, 2004 at 12:56:34 PM by Jim
My Super 55 will only run at idle with out applying the choke. The higher I set the RPM, the more I need to choke it to get it to run smooth. I tried to adjust the carb mixture settings according to a procedure I found in your archive, but with no success. I read on a couple of other discussion boards about leaks at the intake manifold gaskets. They suggested spraying the gasket areas with Carb Cleaner or WD-40 while running. If engine smooths out, then that is a sign of a leak. I tried this on my tractor and it seemed to smooth out a little when I sprayed the front gasket location. Can you shed any more light on my problem or offer suggestions before I start tearing the manifold off? Thanks.
Re(1): Super 55 Runs Very Lean
IP: 69.179.8.115 Posted on October 9, 2004 at 03:43:32 PM by Ron
Don't use WD-40, use carb/choke cleaner. Spray around each intake manifold port at the head and also at the carb base where it meets the manifold. Like you said, any change in speed/sound means you have found a vacuum leak. Replace gaskets as necessary and be sure to torque the bolts properly.
Re(2): Super 55 Runs Very Lean
IP: 67.2.242.47 Posted on October 10, 2004 at 00:05:18 AM by Larry Harsin
You may have insufficient fuel flow from the tank or foreign material in the bottom of the carb bowl where the fuel goes into the power jet. These are just some more possibilities along with the things we have already discussed. Larry
Re(3): Super 55 Runs Very Lean
IP: 4.29.0.51 Posted on October 12, 2004 at 09:49:59 AM by Jim
Thanks, Larry. The fuel flow from the tank seems to be normal. I had the carb apart, to put in a rebuild kit, but I'll double check it when I take the m'fold off. Would you be able to tell me torque values for the intake manifold bolts? Thanks
Re(4): Super 55 Runs Very Lean
IP: 67.2.242.19 Posted on October 13, 2004 at 07:47:21 AM by Larry Harsin
I don't have the book in here. But just snug them up. Don't overtighten them. Larry
uknown oliver engine
IP: 144.139.177.49 Posted on October 7, 2004 at 10:47:45 PM by brian monk
Hi Larry, This queery from Queensland Au. Have blown the hercules in my OC12, can't buy or steal a replacment, but have found a diesel with the serial 160918A, or 185320, 2 sets of numbers, looks similar at the rear and uses a rostermaster injector, was also a petrol block I think, distributer point ? Having a lot of difficulties and no solutions, will anything else fit? Thanks for your time, Brian
Re(1): uknown oliver engine
IP: 67.2.248.94 Posted on October 7, 2004 at 11:22:48 PM by Larry Harsin
I know of nothing else that will fit. You could contact Landis Zimmerman at email: zoc@att.net and see if he would have an idea. He is a Cletrac expert and has a parts and service business for them. Larry
Re(2): uknown oliver engine
IP: 144.139.177.151 Posted on October 8, 2004 at 00:18:11 AM by brian monk
Thanks Larry, This motor is beyond repair, cam,ect. I guess I will just need to continue my search for another DJXC. Brian
Re(3): uknown oliver engine
IP: 67.2.240.166 Posted on October 9, 2004 at 00:02:12 AM by Larry Harsin
Landis may know where one is. Larry
oliver 550
IP: 64.12.116.14 Posted on October 7, 2004 at 09:39:55 PM by marc
I see you have a 550 oliver what year is it and how much is it to buy. Do you have any parts for a 1958 or so 550 ?
Re(1): oliver 550
IP: 67.2.248.94 Posted on October 7, 2004 at 11:19:35 PM by Larry Harsin
The one on our website is an early production one - 1958. The only parts I have for a 550 are engine parts such as sleeves, bearings and valves. If you are interested in it, I prefer you email us. Larry
2-85
IP: 130.76.96.14 Posted on October 7, 2004 at 04:05:11 PM by Pete
Larry, Do you know much about the White 2-85? Good or bad. Is there a difference between a 1979 and 1980 model? Thanks for your time.
Re(1): 2-85
IP: 67.2.248.94 Posted on October 7, 2004 at 11:16:52 PM by Larry Harsin
I don't know that much about the White models. I don't know of any difference - I have never had one. Looking at the specs in the data book there is no difference. Larry
Hercules DRXB Engine Bearings
IP: 203.62.217.13 Posted on October 7, 2004 at 02:21:41 AM by Lance Chapman
I am rebuilding an oliver Crawler DDH, with a hercules DRXB engine and will need to have crank ground to 10,000. My problem is that I am experiencing difficulty obtaining new bearings. Is there other known bearings that can be matched / substituted for the herc motor or alternatively do you know where I can source hercules bearings.
Re(1): Hercules DRXB Engine Bearings
IP: 67.2.249.197 Posted on October 7, 2004 at 07:45:44 AM by Larry Harsin
Landis Zimmerman is the guy to contact. His email: zoc@att.net Larry
1850
IP: 152.163.100.9 Posted on October 5, 2004 at 07:12:54 PM by andy
I just baught an 1850 with the cam gear and governor out of it.the motor is a wakashau gas does any body now were I can find them.
Re(1): 1850
IP: 67.2.242.112 Posted on October 6, 2004 at 00:34:51 AM by Larry Harsin
I don't have these. Call Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Larry
1800 oliver power steering & front axle bracket
IP: 66.38.18.148 Posted on October 5, 2004 at 10:54:38 AM by anthony carnes
Larry, Dad's 1800 A Oliver broke the bracket that holds the Powersteering unit & front axle. Do you know where a person could find one? It is called the front bolster for a wide front end. Thanks.
Re(2): 1800 oliver power steering & front axle bracket
IP: 67.2.242.112 Posted on October 6, 2004 at 00:33:06 AM by Larry Harsin
I don't have one. Check with Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224 or possibly Rock Valley Tractor Parts 800-831-8543. Larry
Weight of Super 55
IP: 12.34.107.235 Posted on October 5, 2004 at 10:27:03 AM by BOB
Where can I find the weigt of a Super 55 gas model with wide front?
Re(1): Weight of Super 55
IP: 67.2.242.112 Posted on October 6, 2004 at 00:29:40 AM by Larry Harsin
It weighs approx. 3145 lbs. A good little book is "Oliver Tractor Data Book" by Brian Rukes. I bought mine from Jensales 800-443-0625. I paid $12.95. Larry
880 Power Booster
IP: 216.174.53.159 Posted on October 4, 2004 at 10:19:59 PM by Richard Jefferies
I recently bought my first Oliver tractor, an 880 gas, which is used for stock pulling only. With the booster lever in the high side (forward), it automatically shifts to the low side when the tractor really starts pulling hard. This occurs without moving the lever. Is this normal?
Re(1): 880 Power Booster
IP: 67.2.249.125 Posted on October 5, 2004 at 07:37:10 AM by Larry Harsin
The over-center clutch, that is controlled with your lever, is slipping. There are shims that you can remove to tighten this clutch. Also, seal leakage can cause this clutch to slip. Larry
1355 Diesel Hard to crank
IP: 152.163.100.9 Posted on October 3, 2004 at 10:13:41 AM by Bill B.
We have a 1969 1355 Oliver White diesel that has become difficult when starting cold. Had starter rebuilt, installed new battery with 1100 cold starting amps still no improvement. Can pull it off easily but requires 2 people. Runs great once it is started and can re-crank after running a few minutes. It seems to lose a lot of oil out of blow pipe when running. Could my problem be lack of compression? Considering having new rings installed. Or should I check something else? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Bill
Re(1): 1355 Diesel Hard to crank
IP: 67.2.248.230 Posted on October 3, 2004 at 02:27:39 PM by Larry Harsin
I believe you have low compression. It will probably take an engine overhaul and possibly sleeves and pistons. Larry
550 p.t.o. clutch
IP: 66.127.217.18 Posted on October 2, 2004 at 12:31:59 PM by J.R.
Larry, The dog screw that holds the pto clutch to the drive shaft has backed out allowing the clutch to come out of the spider. I know to repair it i will have to split the tractor. I've split the tractor before to repair a oil leak and the clutch was good so i made no repairs to it then. Upon inspection of the problem i'm currently having i found that there is 6 fiber friction discs and 5 steel drive discs in the clutch stack. According to the manuals i've seen this tractor only calls for 5 fiber and 4 steel. Is this correct or could this have contributed to the problem? I've owned this tractor for approimatly 5 years and other than a few oil leaks( that i have corrected)i've had no problems with it. Also i'm looking into buying a three point disc plow and was if a 20 blade plow with 20" blades would be to big for this tractor. Thanks, J.R.
Re(1): 550 p.t.o. clutch
IP: 67.2.248.97 Posted on October 3, 2004 at 07:56:24 AM by Larry Harsin
I think the later 550's had more clutch discs than the early ones. I don't know about the disc plow, as I have not had any experience with them in our area. Larry
Re(2): 550 p.t.o. clutch
IP: 70.69.122.128 Posted on October 6, 2004 at 12:21:50 PM by Super 55
Starting with serial number 119 539 the torque cpacity was increased by adding one more drive plate (5 to 6) and one more driven plate (4 to 5)
Re(3): 550 p.t.o. clutch
IP: 209.102.131.251 Posted on October 8, 2004 at 06:13:53 PM by Charles Miniard
Larry Harsin..We have a 550 Oliver Tractor. We have fixed the PTO twice and it did not last. Bought new clutches and this last time it just chewed the teeth of the fiber clutches..What are we doing wrong? Thanks..Charles Miniard
Re(4): 550 p.t.o. clutch
IP: 67.2.240.166 Posted on October 9, 2004 at 00:05:00 AM by Larry Harsin
If you follow the procedures outlined in the shop manual, you should have success this time. The clutch assembly slides inside that drum. Then you have to install a set screw to make sure it stays inside the drum. Make sure to follow the procedure on securing the clutch assembly after you put the set screw in. You should use another set screw on top of the first one to lock it so that it can't back out. Larry
77rc starter problem?
IP: 131.151.84.189 Posted on October 1, 2004 at 02:11:04 PM by Gary L. Abbott
Hi Larry, My cousin has a 51 77rc that he recently overhauled. Since overhauling he says it won't hardly turn over. It will turn over if he jumps it with a 12volt battery. The starter shop says the 6volt starter is o.k. The cables are good and are the correct size. He did increase the bore to 3.5inch. Could this have created to much compression? Thanks Gary
Re(1): 77rc starter problem?
IP: 67.2.240.170 Posted on October 1, 2004 at 07:20:36 PM by Larry Harsin
Yes. It is more compression than a 6 volt will handle. The best way to fix the problem is to convert to a 12 volt system. You can continue to use the 6 volt starter, but you'll have to get a new generator and a new voltage regular. You'll also need a resistor ahead of the ignition coil. Larry
550 loader
IP: 205.188.116.14 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 02:51:29 PM by john
hi larry love the site. have a 550 gas ,am going to retrofit a clubcadet 416 loader on it.can i run the hydraulics from the one that is on the right of the seat??
Re(1): 550 loader
IP: 67.2.248.220 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 11:49:59 PM by Larry Harsin
You can, but it will be slow. This hydraulic unit on this tractor is not intended for loader use. There is just not enough gallons per minute. Larry
HP of rowcrop 77
IP: 216.125.83.70 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 01:45:52 PM by Bob Perko
Im thinking of buying an Oliver Rowcrop 77. Can you tell me how much horsepower they have? Thanks.
Re(1): HP of rowcrop 77
IP: 67.2.248.220 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 11:47:57 PM by Larry Harsin
They have approx. 40 hp. Larry
1650 Oliver
IP: 209.34.33.200 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 00:53:17 AM by Pete
I recently purchased what I was told was a 1972 Model 1650 Oliver diesel tractor. I can't find any picture like it on any Oliver web site. It is painted industrial yellow, but after pressure washing it, I saw spots of green paint.The grill has vertical rods in it and the starter, fuel pump and all hydraulic controls are identical to what is on a Long 610 my brother has. It has no decals and I don't know where to look for the serial #.
Re(1): 1650 Oliver
IP: 67.2.242.20 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 08:23:28 AM by Larry Harsin
On a 1650 the serial number is on the dash below the steering wheel. It sounds to me like you may not have an Oliver tractor. Larry
Re(2): 1650 Oliver
IP: 209.34.33.191 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 06:05:15 PM by Pete
Larry, I checked again and when I am setting in the seat, there is a partially torn off aluminum tag between my knees and below the steering wheel on the panel in front of the gear shift levers with G350 303 stamped on it.
Re(3): 1650 Oliver
IP: 67.2.248.220 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 11:46:43 PM by Larry Harsin
That isn't a serial number, but it could be a model number or something. Could you email a picture of it to us. That would help maybe. Larry
Re(4): 1650 Oliver
IP: 69.179.12.244 Posted on October 2, 2004 at 06:41:29 AM by Ron
There are no 1972 1650s. The last year of production was 1968. The grille you described was never used on a 1650.
770 Radiator, Serial #
IP: 141.152.102.162 Posted on September 29, 2004 at 03:31:48 PM by Butch Bates
I'm having a challenge locating a complete radiator for my dad's 1961 Oliver 770 gas tractor, and having trouble deciphering his serial #, which reads 118329736. Would a radiator for an 88 or 880 series tractor work? Thanks for any ideas.
Re(1): 770 Radiator, Serial #
IP: 67.2.242.20 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 08:34:53 AM by Larry Harsin
I have a radiator for a 770. It has been cleaned, repaired and tested. If you are interested, email me at: cobalt@rconnect.com. An 880 radiator will probably work for your tractor also. Your serial number is: 118329 and you tractor was built in 1962. The 736 on the end refers to gearing etc that was put into your tractor. Larry
Re(2): 770 Radiator, Serial #
IP: 141.152.102.162 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 09:54:54 AM by Butch Bates
Thanks so much Larry; I have alot of mechanical experience but am new to Oliver tractors; my dad's is a 2000 hour unit/would re-coring his tanks be advisable?
Re(3): 770 Radiator, Serial #
IP: 67.2.248.220 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 11:43:21 PM by Larry Harsin
Yes, re-coring is an option. Larry
Industrial 77
IP: 66.119.215.184 Posted on September 29, 2004 at 02:22:39 PM by Rich
Can anyone tell me what motor is in this tractor. It is an Air force tractor according to the tags.
Re(1): Industrial 77
IP: 67.2.242.20 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 08:19:32 AM by Larry Harsin
It's a Waukesha engine. I am not exactly sure, but I'm pretty sure that it is a 185 family of engine, which is the same as a 77. It can have different size pistons than a regular Oliver tractor and it can have different electrical components, if it is a military tractor. The regular Oliver Parts Manual does not contain info on tractors that were built for the government. However, email the Museum in Charles City, and see if they have info on this. Also, they may have the Build Card for this. They would need the serial number to look it up. Their email is: fchs@fiai.net Larry
3 point seals for 1550
IP: 69.67.254.39 Posted on September 29, 2004 at 09:52:07 AM by Bob McElver
Anyone have a good source for seals for the lower shafts of the 3 point that go into the final drive case ? I've got a leak that is pretty consistent and bothersome off the right side shaft. I'm a 1st time Oliver owner and got this one on a great deal with several attachements. She needs some attention, but was well taken care of. Seals and parts are elusive, even after a through check of the internet. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TKS, Bob McElver
Re(1): 3 point seals for 1550
IP: 67.2.242.20 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 08:12:15 AM by Larry Harsin
Call O'Brien Co. Impl. Ask for Tom or Ryan. 800-320-6224. Larry
1800 gas to diesel conversion
IP: 12.162.183.143 Posted on September 28, 2004 at 10:27:46 AM by anthony carnes
Larry, my father has 2 Oliver 1800's one is an A model & the other is a B model. The A has a wakasha diesel engine. and the B model has a 6 cyl. gas engine(not sure of make). Will the diesel fit into the B model without much trouble? And where might a person find another wakasha diesel engine?
Re(1): 1800 gas to diesel conversion
IP: 67.2.248.132 Posted on September 29, 2004 at 01:30:39 AM by Larry Harsin
Yes, it will fit. It will bolt right in. For another engine, check with Worthington Tractor Salvage 800-533-5304 or Rock Valley Tractor Parts 800-831-8543 or Tom at O'Brien Co Impl 800-320-6224. They part out a lot of tractors. Larry
70 iron wheels
IP: 69.149.24.89 Posted on September 27, 2004 at 10:44:03 PM by Craig Scott
Will the iron wheels from our 70 fit a 77. We are having fits with flats in a mesquite pasture. The 77 runs really well, the 70 doesn't so we are trying to use the 77.
Re(1): 70 iron wheels
IP: 67.2.249.84 Posted on September 28, 2004 at 07:38:18 AM by Larry Harsin
I don't think that will work. Possibly a machine shop or a welding shop can fabricate something to make these wheels fit. If I understand right, you would like to put 70 steel wheels on a 77. The 70 axle has splines and the 77 has a round axle with a keyway. Larry
'58 Super 55 Power Steering
IP: 172.155.158.231 Posted on September 27, 2004 at 10:29:23 PM by Kent
What is causing my power steering to lock-up? I have disassembled the the pump several times and could not find any problems. I have found that Oliver posted a recall due to the check valve was set too high. I added shims as described but this did not fix the problem. It still locks up and cause the belt to squeal. The shaft has sheard this time. The power steering is the same that Chevrolet used on their passenger cars in the 50's. The pump is mounted to the rear of the generator via an extended shaft to run the pump.
Re(1): '58 Super 55 Power Steering
IP: 70.69.122.128 Posted on September 27, 2004 at 11:57:19 PM by Super 55
Well, since my Super 55 doesn't have power steering I looked up the trouble shooting in the manual. Goes as follows: Binding: The gerotor inner ring may bind on the outer ring; the spool may bind in the sleeve; or the sleeve may bind in the housing due to improper or uneven tightening of the assembly socket head cap screws. See Specificatons for torque values. Also, check the steerng gear unit adjustment and oil level, readjust or add oil if necessary. The torque is 12-14 foot pounds. Hope this helps.
Re(2): '58 Super 55 Power Steering
IP: 67.2.249.84 Posted on September 28, 2004 at 07:34:54 AM by Larry Harsin
The vanes and the cam ring in the pump are worn out which causes this problem. Larry
550
IP: 68.246.76.99 Posted on September 27, 2004 at 10:06:17 PM by todd
I have a 550 with an Ll00 loader and a backhoe. There appears to be no pto clutch and nothing under seat for 3 point hitch. The serial and type #'s are 45-0864 127584-583. The bachoe requires some bushings and cylinder repack kits but have nothing on backhoe except that the swing is gear driven and hoe is attached to tractor by 2 slots in bottom and 2 pinned holes on top
Re(1): 550
IP: 67.2.249.84 Posted on September 28, 2004 at 07:25:20 AM by Larry Harsin
This is an Industrial tractor built for a backhoe. There should be a tag on the backhoe that tells you what brand it is. Many of them attached this way. I can't really answer about parts until I know what brand of backhoe it is. The serial number on your tractor, 127584, tells me it was built in 1963. Larry
Re(2): 550
IP: 68.246.187.27 Posted on September 28, 2004 at 09:57:05 PM by todd
where on the backhoe would i look? looked everywhere I can think of and nothing. Also is this tractor originally or like regular 550's?
Re(3): 550
IP: 67.2.242.20 Posted on September 30, 2004 at 08:41:37 AM by Larry Harsin
I don't know where you should look on your backhoe. Every brand is different. Sometimes they were on a sticker or a decal and may have worn off or something. I think that your tractor is a 550 Industrial or a 2-44 White, which is the same tractor. Larry
Belt pulley block off
IP: 161.184.50.196 Posted on September 26, 2004 at 12:50:06 PM by Zoltan
Hello Mr. Harsin I am trying to locate a plate that would allow the permanent removal of the belt pulley gear box. If I could locate one in Alberta great, but so far nothing. I have Super 88 diesel parts to trade if someone needs them.
Re(1): Belt pulley block off
IP: 67.2.249.188 Posted on September 27, 2004 at 07:32:19 AM by Larry Harsin
I have the parts you need. Why don't you give me a call. 712-362-2966. Larry
Re(2): Belt pulley block off
IP: 161.184.47.206 Posted on September 27, 2004 at 11:14:06 PM by Zoltan
Mr. Harsin I'll give you a call, what is a convienient time/day?
Re(3): Belt pulley block off
IP: 67.2.249.84 Posted on September 28, 2004 at 07:31:47 AM by Larry Harsin
Probably the best time to catch me is between 6 and 7 in the morning or after 7 p.m. Otherwise, Sandy is in the house most days and can call me to the phone. Larry
880
IP: 216.220.248.199 Posted on September 24, 2004 at 05:06:59 PM by Mike
Larry will a motor out of a 1650 fit into a 880? I picked up a 770d the other day. Tractor has 4500 hrs, starts good. Is there any thing i should look at? any updates? Thanks Mike
Re(1): 880
IP: 67.2.249.248 Posted on September 24, 2004 at 07:41:07 PM by Larry Harsin
Yes, a motor out of a 1650 will fit into an 880. I don't know of anything in particular you should check on the 770 diesel. Just use it and see how it works. Larry
plow hyd. over springs
IP: 69.87.136.141 Posted on September 24, 2004 at 01:09:20 PM by Alan Wernette
Larry, I'm seeking your advice about weather I should keep my "in need of repair" plow hydraulic reset system or purchase new or used reset spring system. The 5 bottom plow is in great shape except for the hydraulic system which needs a new valve, some repiping, and the tank repressurized. I advantage of having the spring resets would be for me is I have the loader on the tractor and hate to remove it everytime I need to use both hydraulic sets for the plow. I bought the plow used a year ago and number is wore off so not sure if it is a 565 or 575. Does it make a difference in replacement spring resets which number it is? Thank you for your advice.
Re(1): plow hyd. over springs
IP: 67.2.249.248 Posted on September 24, 2004 at 07:38:37 PM by Larry Harsin
I think I would find a used plow on a farm sale and buy it instead of trying to repair that one. Many times you can buy a nice semi-mounted plow on an auction for less than $300. Larry
Hitch for 2-Bottom Plow
IP: 158.52.254.238 Posted on September 24, 2004 at 08:58:57 AM by Phil Horvath
Hi, Larry, I bought an Oliver 2-bottom pull-type plow several years ago at an auction. Between the time I bought it and picked it up, someone stole the hitch. I have the plow fixed up and painted, but cannot locate a hitch. The plow is a rooster comb type and I am not sure what year it is, but it was painted green and white with a white decal and black lettering. Please advise where I might be able to locate a hitch for this plow.
Re(1): Hitch for 2-Bottom Plow
IP: 67.2.249.248 Posted on September 24, 2004 at 07:44:58 PM by Larry Harsin
I have an old plow that I am parting out, but I don't think I have what you need. You could check with Darrell Pollesch at 920-928-2392 or Arnold Meyer at email: almeyer@frontiernet.net Larry
voltage regulator
IP: 65.54.98.109 Posted on September 23, 2004 at 10:46:01 AM by terry
need voltage regulator for 1250 oliver diesel is a 24 volt system what to do
Re(1): voltage regulator
IP: 67.2.248.206 Posted on September 24, 2004 at 00:08:59 AM by Larry Harsin
Check with Maibach Tractor 800-808-9932 or Ag Parts First at their website: www.agpartsfirst.com Larry
hp - 2-44
IP: 24.59.84.70 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 06:36:50 PM by dave monica
Hello; can you tell me the horsepower of a white oliver 2-44, gas.?
Re(1): hp - 2-44
IP: 67.2.242.8 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 07:34:04 PM by Larry Harsin
It has 43 HP. Larry
Re(2): hp - 2-44
IP: 24.59.84.70 Posted on September 23, 2004 at 06:17:18 AM by dave monica
great, thanks. Can you also tell me what approximate year it might be and the value. It has p.s., loader, 3pt.and shuttle. thank you
Re(3): hp - 2-44
IP: 67.2.248.121 Posted on September 23, 2004 at 08:01:33 AM by Larry Harsin
We need the serial number to tell you what year it is. Larry
Belt Pulley
IP: 64.146.51.98 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 01:23:54 PM by Valerie
A couple years ago I bought a 1949 RC88 that is missing the entire Belt Pulley assembly. I believe the tractor was used for pulls and that was why it was removed. Do you have such a part or know where I can find one? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I really enjoy your site!
Re(1): Belt Pulley
IP: 67.2.242.8 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 07:29:10 PM by Larry Harsin
Yes, I have a complete belt pulley for an 88. Send us an email. Larry
1610 Loader
IP: 69.87.135.33 Posted on September 21, 2004 at 06:33:36 PM by Alan Wernette
I recently moved my father's 1610 Oliver loader from his 77 over to my 1650. A few years ago he had an accident with the bucket that cause the front left cylinder to not retract fully due to the bent bucket. However, the cylinder stayed straight and continued to work. I found a good used Oliver bucket that was straight and put it on. The left bucket cylinder extended itself the first time and went back in completely. Self adjusting as I've been told. Now the bucket will no longer work because the bucket hydraulics seem to be bound up. If I remove a hose the bucket cylinders will work but looses a lot of fluid. The lift cylinders work good on either side of the tractors hydraulic system. My plow cylinders works good with either side of tractor hydraulics so problem not in tractor. I've tryed flip-flopping hose connections. My son thinks that maybe one of the connection male nipples is bad but both connect and disconnect easily? Acts like it is bound up even with the bucket disconnected from cylinders. Doesn't seem to be circulating the fluid? Is it a cylinder problem? Plenty of hydraulic fluid in pump and lines. Recently, I had the tractors hydraulic pump replaced due to leakage into the transmission and now I have no leakage and very good hydraulic pressure. Not sure this would change anything with the bucket since the bucket was put on after all this work was done and again, hydraulics worked the bucket cylinders the first time before they stopped working? All lines and hoses are in top notch shape.
Re(1): 1610 Loader
IP: 67.2.242.91 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 00:23:05 AM by Larry Harsin
You could have a bad quick coupler. Also, you may have a problem within the cylinder itself. For example, a piston nut that has come loose. It could be some foreign material, such as some cylinder packing being lodged in a small passage somewhere. These are just a few possibilities. You'll have to use the process of elimination to figure it out. You may have to hook up each bucket cylinder separately to the tractor system, in order to find the one with the problem. Larry
Re(2): 1610 Loader
IP: 208.10.120.2 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 07:39:51 PM by Larry from MD
It sounds like you have the same problem i had useing a planter with my 1650.I changed the couplers and there was no differance.I had to loosen the bolt by your right heel that releases the oil going to the 3 point.I could NOT lift the 3 point,but the planter worked fine.I do not have to do this if i put the planter on the 1850.
Re(3): 1610 Loader
IP: 69.87.136.141 Posted on September 24, 2004 at 01:00:11 PM by Alan Wernette
Larry, I hope this is not the case or else I'll be looking for another tractor because I need both the loader and use of the 3 point system many times at the same time. I'm going to try your process of elimination first. Thank you for your advice. Your advice on my leaking hydraulic pump a few weeks ago was right and after changing it with a new one the leakage has stopped the hydraulic system has never worked better except that now my power steering makes a lot of noise from time to time so probably going have to change that sometime soon. Again, thank you!
Re(4): 1610 Loader
IP: 69.87.135.154 Posted on October 10, 2004 at 07:22:06 PM by Alan Wernette
Larry, Bought 2 new male couplers and bucket cylinders work like a charm!! Thanks for the advice.
1755 oliver
IP: 204.255.10.129 Posted on September 21, 2004 at 12:59:33 PM by robert danison
Larry I have this tractor that is all original and have done full restoration ,it is an A1 tractor everything is perfect and the paint is like glass.It comes with a canopy and an extra fresh rebuilt Marval/Schebler carberator I picked up.Do you know of anyone intrested in this tractor? I am in Missouri 573-386-5571. thanks rob
Re(1): 1755 oliver
IP: 67.2.242.91 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 00:14:55 AM by Larry Harsin
I was glad to talk to you on the phone today and suggest places for you to advertise your tractor. Larry
Oliver 1655
IP: 66.227.224.202 Posted on September 21, 2004 at 11:19:58 AM by Shelly
Oliver 1655 is throwing off the drive chain. The pair of sprockets and the splined shaft are very worn causing the sprockets to wobble around. These parts are very expensive from a dealer, any ideas of used or aftermarket parts for this problem?
Re(1): Oliver 1655
IP: 67.2.242.91 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 00:12:40 AM by Larry Harsin
Call Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Larry
Re(2): Oliver 1655
IP: 199.141.125.33 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 02:41:06 PM by CEB
You will have to pull the motor to replace those sprockets. You can avoid having to pull the splined trans. input shaft by using a "repair sleeve". What happens to most of the splined shafts is that the splines wear only on the part of the shaft where the sprocket rides. You can get a machine shop to make you a repair sleeve. Buy a new sprocket and take it to them, so they can match it. You weld the repair sleeve onto your new sprocket and then when you slip this back on to the splined shaft, the repair sleeve will be grabbing the shaft closer to the trany, where it is not worn. Some AGCO dealers that sold Olivers years ago even sell already made up repair sleeves.
Re(3): Oliver 1655
IP: 66.227.224.202 Posted on September 23, 2004 at 11:33:08 AM by Shelly
Thanks for the tips, Larry and CEB! Would you happen to know of any dealers who would still stock this sleeve? Also, your post said to pull the engine, can't we just split the tractor behind the over/under unit? Thanks, Shelly
Re(4): Oliver 1655
IP: 199.141.125.33 Posted on September 23, 2004 at 05:49:36 PM by CEB
Shelly, You don't split Olivers. You actually don't have to pull the engine all the way out of the frame, but you will still need to pull it least a few inches away from the tranny so that you can remove those worn out sprockets. You will still have remove and disconnect all the same linkages and remove all four of the engine mount bolts as you would have to do to pull the entire engine. Also, you will have to pull the PTO cover off in back and remove the big snap ring and pull out the long shaft that goes through the tranny and into the engine flywheel. I presume you will also be putting a new chain onto your new sprockets. Also, I forgot to mention earlier, it would be a good idea to replace the tranny seal behind the sprocket on the tranny side since you will have everything apart and the seal is only about $5 or $6. I would contact O'Brien County Implement about the repair sleeve, they specialize in Olivers. I think Larry could get you the number.
1600 PTO
IP: 216.74.205.33 Posted on September 21, 2004 at 10:43:48 AM by Roger
Do you know where I can find a PTO clutch assembly for a 1600?
Re(1): 1600 PTO
IP: 67.2.242.91 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 00:11:19 AM by Larry Harsin
Check with Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Larry
spring yoke
IP: 66.127.217.234 Posted on September 20, 2004 at 06:52:38 PM by J.R.
Dear sir, I'm the proud owner of a Oliver 550, serial number-146946-519, and i'm in need of information on the draft spring bolt and yoke adjustment, and the two position control locking screws. The yoke on my tractor became defective when the 3/8 yoke pin cap screw broke and allowed the yoke to deform. I also need information on where i can purchase another yoke. Thanks, J.R.
Re(1): spring yoke
IP: 67.2.249.49 Posted on September 21, 2004 at 07:52:38 AM by Larry Harsin
Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. will have a yoke. 800-320-6224. It sounds like you have an Operator's Manual. Just go by the adjustments it gives in there. Larry
Re(2): spring yoke
IP: 66.127.217.232 Posted on September 21, 2004 at 08:34:44 AM by J.R.
Larry, I don't have an operators manual, all i have is a IT shop manual. Thanks for the contact, i'll give them a call. Also what year was this tractor made? J.R.
Re(3): spring yoke
IP: 67.2.242.91 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 00:09:42 AM by Larry Harsin
Your 550 was built in 1964. Larry
serial# for 550
IP: 152.163.100.8 Posted on September 19, 2004 at 09:43:47 PM by marc
the serial plate is missing on my 550 oliver. it looks like the one you have for sale except this one was yellow at one time. is there any other place to get a idea on the year.like engine #s or any other.thanks for the help.
Re(1): serial# for 550
IP: 67.2.248.211 Posted on September 20, 2004 at 07:43:55 AM by Larry Harsin
There may be a casting date on the bottom of the transmission housing. Also, there is a build date that is stamped on the top of the cylinder head where the thermostat attaches, but it would be a big job to get to read it. This would tell the date that the engine was built at Waukesha. The yellow paint possibly indicates that it is an Industrial 550. Larry
Re(2): serial# for 550
IP: 64.12.116.68 Posted on September 21, 2004 at 08:43:53 PM by marc blue
if i find the #s on the transmission and told you what they were could you tell the date. i wouldnt know what they mean. and are they stamped or raised letters. thanks for all the help.
Re(3): serial# for 550
IP: 67.2.242.91 Posted on September 22, 2004 at 00:28:16 AM by Larry Harsin
The numbers that are cast into the transmission housing are raised - cast right into the housing. They are the day, month and year that the transmission housing was cast. The tractor would have been built shortly thereafter. (Giving you the year) Larry
Re(5): serial# for 550
IP: 67.2.240.166 Posted on October 9, 2004 at 00:17:23 AM by Larry Harsin
I think it was moved later than 1959. That is the PTO clutch and I think they moved it in 1964 or so. The numbers you gave me: 101641A is the part number for the transmission housing. Larry
Oliver 70 Carb. parts
IP: 68.13.174.191 Posted on September 19, 2004 at 08:49:37 PM by Larry Kruse
I need to find a source for new carb. jets and needles for a 1948 Oliver 70. The Echlin kit does not include the jets and needles. It cleaned up so good it would be a shame to go for a rebuilt carb for just the jets.
Re(1): Oliver 70 Carb. parts
IP: 67.2.248.211 Posted on September 20, 2004 at 07:39:53 AM by Larry Harsin
Check with Tom at O'Brien Co Impl. 800-320-6224. Larry
Oliver Identification
IP: 67.97.159.22 Posted on September 19, 2004 at 04:56:33 PM by B.R. Kelso
Bought an old Oliver for a working tractor. It was in a barn when a tornado hit; the barn lost and the Oliver was none the better for it. Much sheet metal missing, including the data plate. Looking at pictures on the web, it looks like a 77 and the axle housings are embossed "Row Crop". But it also looks sort of like an 88 or a 660 or an 880. Six speeds, drawbar, six cylinder. No model or serial number anywhere. Can you describe some definite features which distinguish the various models of this era? I can't tell from the pictures I've seen. I'd like to identify it for sure since the cast iron PTO case has been destroyed and I'd like to locate and buy parts to get it going again. Help!
Re(1): Oliver Identification
IP: 208.10.120.2 Posted on September 19, 2004 at 06:28:47 PM by Larry from MD
The best thing is to look under the tractor for casting marks.Either on the frame or rear end.There should be a 77 or 88 or 66 somewhere in these numbers.Allso a 88 will have k in the engine casting and the 77 will have an m and the 66 will be 4 cylinders.
Re(2): Oliver Identification
IP: 67.2.248.211 Posted on September 20, 2004 at 07:38:22 AM by Larry Harsin
If it is a 77, on the left rear of the engine block will be a casting number of M 100. The rear axle housings will have an M in front of the part number, also. Larry
88 Row Crop Carb.
IP: 66.231.22.92 Posted on September 15, 2004 at 09:32:36 PM by Erik O.
I have a row crop 88 with a Schebler carb. I was wondering what model of carb and availability of a kit with float. The information i have indicate a tsx 374, but have not been able to find anyone thats heard of such a number. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Re(1): 88 Row Crop Carb.
IP: 67.2.249.73 Posted on September 16, 2004 at 11:15:54 PM by Larry Harsin
I think the TSX 610 is the one most likely found on an 88 RC. You can get carb repair kits from Valu-Bilt 888-828-3276. It should be an easy one to get. Larry
Re(2): 88 Row Crop Carb.
IP: 68.188.9.4 Posted on September 17, 2004 at 06:44:02 PM by Marty
I got my 880 carb from Yesterday's Tractor they had the best price and shiped fast try this web site http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/store/model_parts.cgi?SearchArea=OL&&md=88
gas & diesel similarity
IP: 161.184.44.67 Posted on September 15, 2004 at 03:45:38 PM by zoltan
Mr. Harsin What are the common parts used between super 88 gas and diesel engines? That is, are the exactly the same? Of interest to me are (1) crankshaft, (2) rods, (3) block, (4) flywheel, (5) timing gears, (6) valvetrain. I have 2 1957's, gas was run out of oil and diesel is stuck. I may use the diesel crank if it works. Is the balance the same on the crankshaft? I have a parts book coming as per your advice, but the curiosity is getting to me. Thank you again Zoltan
Re(1): gas & diesel similarity
IP: 208.10.120.2 Posted on September 15, 2004 at 05:50:16 PM by Larry from MD
The rods,crank,valvetrain are all the same.The timeing gears are differant in that it takes a differant idler to get over to the govner or the injector pump.That differant idler uses a differant bushing in a differant hole in the block.So the block can be changed from one to the other if you change the bushing and block the oil hole.You should keep the valves with the head you are useing,but they can switch too.
Re(2): gas & diesel similarity
IP: 161.184.46.112 Posted on September 15, 2004 at 11:45:39 PM by Zoltan
Mr. Larry from MD Thank you again. Couriosity satisfied....for now.
Re(3): gas & diesel similarity
IP: 67.2.249.73 Posted on September 16, 2004 at 11:08:44 PM by Larry Harsin
I agree with most of what Larry from MD says, but gas and diesel valves are different. Crankshaft, rods and crankcase will interchange. Flywheels are marked different for timing. There are many parts that will interchange, but there are also many parts that are different. Sorry to be so slow in answering, we have been gone for a week. Larry
Yellow oliver 70
IP: 209.175.199.3 Posted on September 15, 2004 at 03:13:01 PM by eric helbig
My dad has a Oliver 70 from the '40s (I don't remember the serial #) that is painted yellow. He is planning on restoring it but would like to know if any Olivers that anyone knows of were painted yellow and why. He has scratched the paint and it doesn't appear that it has ever been painted green before. If anyone knows anything, I'd apprieciate an email.
Re(1): Yellow oliver 70
IP: 208.10.120.2 Posted on September 16, 2004 at 12:30:19 PM by Larry from MD
If its not an industrial it could be one of the paint trial tractors.When the 70's came out oliver made a big show of painting 70's several differant colors. They showed them off and got people to vote on the best one.Well green with red and yellow trim won.The differant tractors were sold without repainting.
Re(2): Yellow oliver 70
IP: 67.2.249.73 Posted on September 16, 2004 at 11:04:03 PM by Larry Harsin
It is probably an Industrial model. The 70 Industrial serial number begins with a 4. That might be the reason it was painted yellow. The serial number tag is on the left side of the engine block. Larry
1650 steering column bearing
IP: 216.170.157.191 Posted on September 14, 2004 at 09:36:45 PM by Patrick H. O'Donnell
Larry, The bearing on the steering column of our 1650 gas tractor got very stiff (almost could not steer the tractor) after it had sat awhile. Penetrating oil loosened it up but I want to replace it. Was told by dealer the bearing was obsolete. Can you help me with this? Thanks, Pat O'D.
Re(1): 1650 steering column bearing
IP: 67.2.249.73 Posted on September 16, 2004 at 11:00:43 PM by Larry Harsin
Check with Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. He has these bearings. Larry
Oliver OC3
IP: 68.189.242.185 Posted on September 13, 2004 at 11:15:30 AM by Gary Munsey
My father just recently aquired an Oliver OC3 crawler and we do not have much information on the model. Can anyone tell me what years the OC3 was produced? We will be starting to restore the crawler in the near future. I am not sure what serial number the machine is as of yet.
Re(1): Oliver OC3
IP: 67.2.249.73 Posted on September 16, 2004 at 10:58:26 PM by Larry Harsin
The OC 3 was built from 1951 thru 1957. Sorry we have been slow in answering, we have been gone for a week. Larry
oliver 77
IP: 67.50.151.63 Posted on September 12, 2004 at 09:41:11 PM by Wille
Wondering what the shipping weight of an Oliver 77 row crop w\ press steel was? Could you send a copy of where its found?
Re(1): oliver 77
IP: 67.2.249.73 Posted on September 16, 2004 at 10:56:25 PM by Larry Harsin
The 77 RC w/pressed steel wheels weighs approx. 3700 lbs. The info is in your Operator's Manual under Specifications. Larry
770d
IP: 216.220.251.84 Posted on September 12, 2004 at 05:57:47 PM by mike
Larry, Thanks for the info on my last message. I found out what the gear box in back of the transmission was used for. The tractor was set up for a flat belt pully. Can you tell me what the injection pump timing should be set at. 770d w/roosa master pump. thanks Mike.
Re(1): 770d
IP: 67.2.242.15 Posted on September 17, 2004 at 09:01:56 AM by Larry Harsin
The timing should be set at 6 degrees before top dead center. Sorry to be so slow in answering. We were gone for a week. Larry
oliver 1600 pulling tractor
IP: 206.40.110.136 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 05:25:35 PM by rocky
i have an oliver 1600 diesel with a roosa master fuel pump, i was wondering if there was a way to turn it up
Re(1): oliver 1600 pulling tractor
IP: 67.2.249.225 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 11:55:14 PM by Larry Harsin
You should take it to your pump shop and have them recalibrate it for more fuel delivery. Larry
Oliver 1800 A rear tail light
IP: 64.12.116.14 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 04:28:47 PM by Dave Alvord
Larry, I am trying to find the correct rear light with the single 1/2" stud and the red glass lens in it and not the trailer light with two 1/4" studs. Any suggestions? This goes on the tractor with the engine I got from you. I need two of them.
Re(1): Oliver 1800 A rear tail light
IP: 67.2.249.225 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 11:53:29 PM by Larry Harsin
Check with Tom at O'Brien Co. Impl. 800-320-6224. Larry
loader valves
IP: 199.120.78.253 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 01:21:46 PM by RON
Hi Larry, this is a great web site. I am rebuilding a 1610 loader and I am going to put it on a 1655. Since I'm going to use power beyond, I will need to add two valves (one with float).My manual says I need open center valves. Is this correct? What keeps the cylinders from moving in the open center position? Load checks? Or do I need tandem center valves? Thanks in advance for your help Larry.
Re(1): loader valves
IP: 67.2.249.225 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 11:51:51 PM by Larry Harsin
Yes, that is correct. Just the valve itself keeps the cylinders from moving in the open center position. You can get open center valves that have load checks in them. When you go to buy the valves, talk to the hydraulic expert about whether you need open center with load checks or tandem center valves Larry
88 rear weight capacity
IP: 161.184.42.190 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 01:21:55 AM by Zoltan
Hello I was wondering what the rear weight capacity of a 1957 88 Super (row crop with wide fixed front) would be? I would like to put a model 32 Case backhoe on it (weight yet to be determined). Would an industrial model have a higher rating? I intend to work it on or near the farm and keep road travel to a minimum. Any input would be appreciated. Thank you Zoltan
Re(1): 88 rear weight capacity
IP: 67.2.249.193 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 08:03:37 AM by Larry Harsin
I think the tractor would handle a small to med backhoe, but not a large one. The Oliver tractors that were built for backhoes (Industrials), had a special truss system to help the tractor carry the load on the rear axles. Larry
Re(2): 88 rear weight capacity
IP: 161.184.48.215 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 11:16:08 PM by Zoltan
Hello Mr. Harsin, thank you for your input. Could you elaborate on the factory method of trussing the rear axle, or direct me to a source of information? Do the industrials have heavier components for backhoe service (ie. bearings, axle housings and axles) and if so are they a direct replacement on agri. models? Also I have been unable to find the weight of a backhoe that would have been factory equipment on an 88, could you advise? Thank you again Zoltan
Re(3): 88 rear weight capacity
IP: 67.2.249.225 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 11:46:58 PM by Larry Harsin
You can't "upgrade" your tractor to be an Industrial. You have to purchase an Industrial version of your tractor. For your own information, you can get an Oliver 88 Parts Book from the Museum in Charles City by emailing them at: fchs@fiai.net After you read this book, you will understand what we are talking about. I don't know what a backhoe would weigh. Larry
Re(4): 88 rear weight capacity
IP: 161.184.48.215 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 11:53:21 PM by Zoltan
Thank you for that incredibly fast response. Zoltan
super 55
IP: 64.12.116.14 Posted on September 7, 2004 at 08:19:41 PM by David goyer
What is in the super 55 and are parts like pistons still around?
Re(1): super 55
IP: 67.2.249.193 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 08:19:34 AM by Larry Harsin
Yes, there are plenty of parts available for Super 55's. Larry
Re(1): super 55
IP: 70.69.122.128 Posted on September 10, 2004 at 00:24:22 AM by Super 55
The Super 55 has an Oliver-Waukesha four cylindar engine. Bore and stroke: 3.5X3.75 inches, 144 c.i. Came in diesel or gas. If you go to the parts links at Klines Oliver page, he has a lot of the good dealers listed for you. Some of the listings I know have websites, but they are not given. Just do a Google search.
1650 For Sale
IP: 12.169.2.101 Posted on September 7, 2004 at 05:20:02 PM by Joe
Larry, I was just wondering if you knew of any good places to advertise an Oliver 1650 For Sale. I have a 1650 gas with a wide front, good rubber, and a new westendorf TA26 that I am trying to sell. Do you have any sugestions or know of anyone whom might be interested in this? thanks
Re(1): 1650 For Sale
IP: 67.2.249.193 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 08:17:59 AM by Larry Harsin
You could advertise in the Hart Parr Oliver Collectors' Magazine. Email your ad to: becky@hartparroliver.org It is 35 cents a word with a 50 word limit. You could advertise in Antique Power Magazine. Their website is: www.antiquepower.com or there is a new website: www.eTractorConnect.com that is a place to advertise. I havn't checked it out. Larry
1958 super 55
IP: 205.188.116.14 Posted on September 7, 2004 at 11:25:46 AM by David Goyer
I purchased this super 55 to do small jobs around my 7 acre plot. It has a woods loader on it, it does'nt smoke but seems to have alot of blow by out the breather. It is not all the time,can I put a pvc valve in to the air cleaner to cure this? Also I was told it may have a hurclease engine, is possable? thanks Dave
Re(1): 1958 super 55
IP: 208.10.120.2 Posted on September 7, 2004 at 12:11:08 PM by Larry from MD
NO! and NO.
Re(2): 1958 super 55
IP: 67.2.249.193 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 08:10:19 AM by Larry Harsin
I wouldn't be too worried about the blow by, that's not a big problem if it works o.k. The S55's were built with Waukesha engines. Larry
froze engine on 60
IP: 65.168.225.10 Posted on September 6, 2004 at 04:34:09 PM by Craig Spoores
Ihave aquired a model 60 row crop which has been setting in lean-too for about 20 years. Needless to say the engine is froze up what would be a good way to losen up the frozen engine? This is a 1948 brought new in 49. Has been overhauled once. I have all the parts,but will need small items.
Re(1): froze engine on 60
IP: 69.179.5.42 Posted on September 6, 2004 at 07:22:41 PM by Ron
PB Blaster and patience.
Re(2): froze engine on 60
IP: 68.1.213.225 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 00:05:20 AM by julmer
I understand the patience part, but what is PB BLaster and where does it come from? All I can afford to buy is usually someone's "distressed" merchandise and this can be a leading cause of "distress". I've been using a mixture of ATF, Diesel oil with sometimes Marvel Mystery oil or turpentine thrown in for good measure. Please elaborate. Thanks! Jerry
Re(3): froze engine on 60
IP: 69.179.5.42 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 06:50:04 PM by Ron
PB Blaster is the best penetrant there is. I've used everything else and always come back to PB Blaster. Most auto parts stores sell it.
Re(3): froze engine on 60
IP: 65.168.224.27 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 05:08:50 PM by Craig Spoores
I have been using ATF and Diesel fuel along with alchol. No luck so far I guess I need to find sone patience. PB Baster is like WD40.
Re(3): froze engine on 60
IP: 67.2.249.193 Posted on September 8, 2004 at 08:07:05 AM by Larry Harsin
Use Penetrating Oil and Patience. I would probably remove the cylinder head and disassemble as required to get the tractor loosened up. Larry
Re(4): froze engine on 60
IP: 67.2.249.137 Posted on September 19, 2004 at 07:41:38 AM by Larry Harsin
PB Blaster works, but it is nasty stuff. Be sure to read the label and have lots of ventilation. Don't use it in a shop with the doors closed. Larry